Posted on 05/08/2015 7:56:34 AM PDT by Salvation
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It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – On the Council of Jerusalem and the Catholicity of the Early Church
Monsignor Pope Ping!
Finely nuanced fake Church history ping!
Says a fake historian.
Straight from the Bible. Why don’t you believe it?
“Says a fake historian.”
Since the author of the screed isn’t a historian, that doesn’t seem to be the basis. Having looked at multiple catholic seminary curriculum requirements though, it appears my training in church history is a multiple of his...
All you need however is to be true to the account in scripture without all the eisogesis.
Msgr Pope wrote: 8. The Council of Jerusalem – Luke, a master of understatement, says, “Because there arose no little dissension and debate …” (Acts 15:2) it was decided to ask the Apostles and elders in Jerusalem to gather and consider the matter. So the Apostles and some presbyters (priests) with them meet. Of course Peter is there, as is James, who was especially prominent in Jerusalem among the Apostles and would later become bishop there. Once again, Luke rather humorously understates the matter by saying, “After much debate, Peter arose” (Acts 15:7).
Peter arises to settle the matter since.....Peter clearly dismisses any notion that the Gentiles should be made to take up the whole burden of Jewish customs. Paul and Barnabas rise to support this.
This leads us to dating the Didache:
“Certainly Barnabas and Paul were “The Apostles to the Gentiles.” If the Didache is a sample of their teaching, as it certainly seems to be, then it must be dated no later than AD 49 because that was when they went their separate ways. The most probable date is either AD 44 or AD 47. In either case, those dates are earlier than anything in the New Testament. Therefore, I believe the Didache is the earliest Christian document we have. Although rightly regarded as a church handbook and not a Gospel or absolutely based on the teachings of Jesus, it provides valuable insights concerning the moral doctrines, theology, rituals, esoteric operations and congregational testing of apostles and prophets, and the basic organization of First Century Christianity.”
“Straight from the bible.”
I’ve always enjoyed your sense of humor Salvation.
I’m not trying to be funny.
“I’m not trying to be funny.”
You either shouldn’t be sharing that, or you should limit your posting until you understand the falsehoods presented as true in this article.
In either case the answer is ,”Study to show yourself approved - a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the Word of truth.”
Here's that section from Acts 15 just for you.
Reading 1 Acts 15:7-21
After much debate had taken place,
Peter got up and said to the Apostles and the presbyters,
“My brothers, you are well aware that from early days
God made his choice among you that through my mouth
the Gentiles would hear the word of the Gospel and believe.
And God, who knows the heart,
bore witness by granting them the Holy Spirit
just as he did us.
He made no distinction between us and them,
for by faith he purified their hearts.
Why, then, are you now putting God to the test
by placing on the shoulders of the disciples
a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear?
On the contrary, we believe that we are saved
through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they.”
The whole assembly fell silent,
and they listened
while Paul and Barnabas described the signs and wonders
God had worked among the Gentiles through them.
After they had fallen silent, James responded,
“My brothers, listen to me.
Symeon has described how God first concerned himself
with acquiring from among the Gentiles a people for his name.
The words of the prophets agree with this, as is written:
After this I shall return
and rebuild the fallen hut of David;
from its ruins I shall rebuild it
and raise it up again,
so that the rest of humanity may seek out the Lord,
even all the Gentiles on whom my name is invoked.
Thus says the Lord who accomplishes these things,
known from of old.
It is my judgment, therefore,
that we ought to stop troubling the Gentiles who turn to God,
but tell them by letter to avoid pollution from idols,
unlawful marriage, the meat of strangled animals, and blood.
For Moses, for generations now,
has had those who proclaim him in every town,
as he has been read in the synagogues every sabbath.”
I am not ashamed of the Word of God, Jesus Christ.
If someone isn’t ashamed of the scriptures they learn to correctly handle them, according to Paul...
I’ll take Christ’s words in the Gospels over Paul’s any day.
Good bye.
There we go again with the shallow stuff of Protestantism.
Paul was at the Council of Jerusalem. He agreed with Peter about reaching out to the gentiles. And he recognized Peter’s authority as the leader of the Council to release gentile converts from purely ritual Jewish laws.
The various scriptural passages that Monsignor Pope cites are all exactly as he cites them, and there are no distortions or misrepresentations in his account.
“I’ll take Christ’s words in the Gospels over Paul’s any day.”
You just expressed both an exceedingly low view of Inspiration and a failure to examine the totality of revelation. These are the foundation of heresies.
“There we go again with the shallow stuff of Protestantism.”
Your slogans are not helping your campaign...
“Paul was at the Council of Jerusalem. He agreed with Peter about reaching out to the gentiles. And he recognized Peter’s authority as the leader of the Council to release gentile converts from purely ritual Jewish laws.”
God interceded in Peter’s life by vision to tell him Gentiles are not unclean, but included in the Gospel. The Holy Spirit confirmed this.
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