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Minister justifies abortion by saying preborn babies have original sin
liveactionnews.org ^ | may 31 2015 | sarah terzo

Posted on 06/01/2015 4:08:25 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: miele man

But that is not to say Dr. Kennedy is the ONLY one you understand. There are many good men of God.


21 posted on 06/01/2015 4:40:15 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Morgana

If it’s the same Swomley I saw on Google, he’s five years dead. But his arguments are still so stupid I’m sorely tempted to track down his grave, dig up his remains, slap his skull, and then reinter them. We’re talking Billy Madison grade stupid.


22 posted on 06/01/2015 4:41:02 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but one mustn't misuse it."--Pope St. John Paul II)
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To: Morgana

Insane.


23 posted on 06/01/2015 4:41:49 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: Morgana

It is too bad this POS Methodist minister’s mother did not abort him! And he will go to hell for holding his abortionist assumptions.


24 posted on 06/01/2015 4:42:12 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Morgana

I didn’t know of Swomley, so I looked him up. First of all, he kicked the bucket in 2010 at the age of 95, which shows that only the good die young. He seemed to have spent his long life and career on the wrong side of every issue. He was a major anti-Catholic and critic of Mother Theresa. To the extent that he still has influence today, it could be his stench blowing in from the bowels of hell.


25 posted on 06/01/2015 4:44:06 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Morgana

Swomley. Boko Haram could use a spokesperson like him. Might improve their images.


26 posted on 06/01/2015 4:46:24 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: RichInOC; wagglebee; Salvation; NYer; All

“If it’s the same Swomley I saw on Google, he’s five years dead.”

Yet his statement is still making the rounds.

Also you have to understand the author of this article, Sarah Terzo runs a website that I post a lot of stuff from called “Clinic Quotes” where she posts quotes of pro choice people. Does not matter if they were/are former clinic workers, planned parenthood or just people who support the pro choice cause, Sarah posts their quotes. As Sarah states on her site “they said it”.


27 posted on 06/01/2015 4:48:04 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

see my post #27


28 posted on 06/01/2015 4:51:06 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Exactly what I was about to post as a response. As an added caveat the Ten Commandments are meaningless. By continued extrapolation, The Bible is fiction, and God is merely a figment of our imagination. If all that is true than there is no such thing as Original Sin either.

Which means this Methodist minister, John M Swomley, is a huckster who doesn't believe in the Ten Commandments. The Bible, God or even Heaven & Hell. Yet he is firmly committed to the concept of Original Sin? How convenient.

It's truly amazing how much religion has allowed itself to be so perverted in one generation. Perhaps I am just seeing it that way. Maybe the truth is, religion has been slowly perverting itself all along.

I think I have always been somewhat suspicious of all religions, and waffled in and out of belief in God (especially in my younger years, and at my convenience of course) until I looked around and decided that this all could not have happened by coincidence. There indeed had to be a creator. The fact that it is still in existence, proves to me that our creator still exists as well.

29 posted on 06/01/2015 4:52:56 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Morgana

Reason no. 1,973,888 that I’m so sad that my sister and her family are United(or it untied?) Methodists. :(


30 posted on 06/01/2015 5:03:41 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Robert DeLong

>> Perhaps I am just seeing it that way. Maybe the truth is, religion has been slowly perverting itself all along.

The perversion is ongoing, and the extent of it is cyclical. Less than fifty years after Jesus did his redeeming work, St. Paul was correcting the religious perversions of the Christian churches in various places (Galatia, for one). And so on and so forth, ever since. But the word of GOD has endured through all of it — and GOD’s word will endure forever.

>> The fact that it is still in existence, proves to me that our creator still exists as well.

Yes He does. I’m happy that you thought it through and came to that (IMO inescapable) conclusion.

The fallen angel called satan still exists as well, and it’s that liar, destroyer and thief that is responsible for perverting GOD’s creation in so many ways (including the one that is the topic of this post).

FRegards, and GOD’s blessings on you and yours


31 posted on 06/01/2015 5:04:41 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Morgana

I once interacted (not here; on a completely different part of the Internet) with a hyper-Calvinist who thought aborting babies was no big deal, since none of them could possibly be among the Elect (or God wouldn’t permit them to be aborted).


32 posted on 06/01/2015 5:05:39 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Morgana

Oh, no worries. I’m just in awe that somebody tried to make those arguments in favor of abortion.


33 posted on 06/01/2015 5:07:03 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but one mustn't misuse it."--Pope St. John Paul II)
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To: conservativejoy

I was born a Methodist, but haven’t stepped inside a Methodist Church in 26 years. They stopped being a religion and started being a leftist political group a long time ago.


34 posted on 06/01/2015 5:18:09 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Morgana

Yes, he had a role in turning the UMC and plenty of its clergy in the wrong direction, so it is important to acknowledge his legacy, even if he is deceased.


35 posted on 06/01/2015 5:26:19 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Nervous Tick
satan still exists as well

Absolutely he does. At this point I'm sure he even thinks he is winning. But when the Fat Lady sings he will learn the truth.

GOD’s blessings on you and yours

Thank you, and the same to you.

I’m happy that you thought it through and came to that (IMO inescapable) conclusion

It still confuses me why so many people fail to see it, especially as they age. In our youth we can be forgiven to a degree. But at some point & time I would think that people would realize this didn't just happen by chance. Even if you are heavily wedded to science, and actually especially if you are heavily wedded to science, you have to realize that the odds of having that many coincidences occur is not improbable, it is impossible.

36 posted on 06/01/2015 5:28:43 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Morgana

Dear God. How far must our culture sink? We are cursed with original sin because of Adam and Eve. But we are not guilty of the inception of that curse. We are only resposible for our own individual acts/sins.

Babies do not have ability to commit a personal sin and are therefore completely innocent.


37 posted on 06/01/2015 5:30:11 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Swomley had a long record of supporting various communist organizations’ fronts and causes.

He might show up at either www.keywiki.org or www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org.

I’m sure he will show up in old congressional hearings from the House Committee on Un-American Activities, the Dies/Special Com. on Un-American Activities, the House Internal Security Committee and possibly the Sen. Internal Security Subcom/Sen. Judiciary Committee.


38 posted on 06/01/2015 5:30:34 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: xzins; EternalVigilance; Alex Murphy

This thread contains numerous items crying out for your response. May God continue to bless all of you and yours!


39 posted on 06/01/2015 6:29:34 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Just evil... one does not have to posit an eternally innocent humanity to respect them the same as God wants them respected.


40 posted on 06/01/2015 6:33:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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