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I agree, some of the content is not necessary and is his opinion. But there is some good things in there also. Like, there is not even a conversation to be had with someone if they do not believe that life should be protected. You can’t be pro-environment and not pro-life. The conversation with most liberals will end before it begins. So, until they agree with that, we won’t even have to worry about a conversation. That is how I look at it.


79 posted on 06/23/2015 12:42:33 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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Dear JPII Be Not Afraid,

Those are throwaway lines. I see the reaction on the part of the world, and Bergoglio might as well have not even added them. They are fig leaves, covering the pagan nakedness of this document, and not well at all.

Up until this encyclical, I have been careful in what I thought and said about Bergoglio. I tried to pick out what was worthy in what he said, and tried to interpret as charitably as I could what was not espcially worthy.

But this document is not Catholic. Bad at it though I may be, I am.

I am left wondering about the legitimacy of this papacy.

I don't want to see: 1) liberally-inclined Catholics following Bergoglio off the cliff into gaia worship and 2) otherwise faithful Catholics driven out of the Church because they are scandalized by a (materially?) heretical pope. No priest, no matter how important, will ever drive me from the Church. I know where Jesus is. But I see Catholics losing their faith, and it breaks my heart.


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81 posted on 06/23/2015 1:13:50 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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You do realize that in 180+ pages he mentions abortion once? Like in one sentence? And then continues saying things that make you wonder whether he really meant it?


83 posted on 06/23/2015 1:40:15 PM PDT by piusv
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