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A Skeleton, a Catholic Relic, and a Mystery About American Origins
The Atlantic ^ | 7/28/15 | Adrienne LaFrance

Posted on 07/29/2015 12:31:45 PM PDT by BlatherNaut

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I read years ago Anglicans still had rosary devotions. So this may not be a Catholic person but an Anglican who had a rosary.


21 posted on 07/29/2015 11:07:56 PM PDT by johngrace ( I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: BlatherNaut
which appeared to be an ancient Catholic reliquary,

Or maybe it was just a box.

22 posted on 07/29/2015 11:38:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: BlatherNaut

Very interesting.


23 posted on 07/30/2015 1:41:41 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: BlatherNaut; ebb tide

Boy, is my face red! I missed that paragraph entirely.

The supposition that I criticized is most logical.

Not to self: Less skimming, more reading.


24 posted on 07/30/2015 4:14:21 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Slyfox

Quite intereesting. Thanks for posting it.


25 posted on 07/30/2015 11:05:23 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: BlatherNaut

You are very welcome.


26 posted on 07/30/2015 9:24:26 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: lonevoice

My pleasure.


27 posted on 07/30/2015 9:24:43 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: chajin; BlatherNaut
I read this story in an AFP credit today and WOW, it was spun completely different. (imagine that)
Written up as evidence of British colonies and how RC was suppressed by the "colonialists."
With a lot of anti-American revolutionary spinn.
28 posted on 07/31/2015 3:51:46 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: BlatherNaut; SunkenCiv
I question the premise of the researcher.

England had been Protestant for only about 70 years at the foundation of Jamestown. This relic could have been in the family for many years and was still being passed down after England became Protestant.

Plus, there were and are different kinds of Anglicans. In the early 17th Century some Anglicans were Calvinist and would have regarded worshiping with relics idolatry. Other Anglicans were high church who worshiped almost like Catholics but followed Protestant teaching on the Eucharist. King James tended to favor the high church approach to worship.

So, finding a reliquary with this man does not necessarily mean he was a Catholic. Maybe, maybe not.

The way to research the issue would be to go to England and see if any family history could be located that would shed light on the family's political and religious history. In the 17th Century there was a considerable struggle over whether England might revert to Catholicism or if would remain Protestant just what kind of Protestant. The English Civil War was fought over the issue and another King was deposed in the Glorious Revolution.

29 posted on 07/31/2015 4:52:19 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Well put.


30 posted on 07/31/2015 5:41:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: colorado tanker

The family history (per Smithsonian Magazine) indicates that
Archer’s father was a Catholic.

From post #20:

“...Gabriel Archer’s father was among the Catholics, called a “recusant” and cited in court for failing to attend Anglican services. Archer had learned resistance at home...”

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/new-archaeological-research-jamestown-reveals-identities-four-prominent-settlers-discovery-180956028/?no-ist


31 posted on 07/31/2015 6:14:36 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Christopher Columbus was, of course, Catholic, but many people don’t know he is also recognized for a life of heroic virtue and designated a “Servant of God” (step 1 of 3 on the “path” to sainthood) by the Catholic Church.


32 posted on 08/04/2015 1:20:06 AM PDT by 2tipsea (What can I say?)
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I didn’t know that, either. Thanks for the info.


33 posted on 08/04/2015 6:34:15 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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