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To: spetznaz
Jesus warned us that we would be taken by men, and slaughtered, not by God. There are Christians being slaughtered and driven out in the Middle East and around the world today, but we are not in The Tribulation yet. God never promised us we'd never suffer persecution, Jesus almost promised us to expect it, but God promised us to deliver us from His wrath, which is The Tribulation.
29 posted on 08/23/2015 9:06:49 PM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: Smittie; spetznaz

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>> “ but God promised us to deliver us from His wrath, which is The Tribulation.” <<

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No!

The tribulation is Satan’s wrath.

God’s wrath is the bowl judgements that come after Yeshua and his angels have resurrected the elect at the end of the trib.


34 posted on 08/23/2015 9:14:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Smittie
Jesus warned us that we would be taken by men, and slaughtered, not by God. There are Christians being slaughtered and driven out in the Middle East and around the world today, but we are not in The Tribulation yet. God never promised us we'd never suffer persecution, Jesus almost promised us to expect it, but God promised us to deliver us from His wrath, which is The Tribulation.

That is EXACTLY the distinction that some here are failing to make.

We are not guaranteed to be delivered from tribulation, but from THE Tribulation.

We will experience tribulation, persecution, and hardships here on earth because of our testimony for Christ, but not God's judgment on the unbelieving, Christ rejecting world, which is THE Tribulation.

102 posted on 08/24/2015 9:27:38 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Smittie
but God promised us to deliver us from His wrath, which is The Tribulation.

No, the Tribulation is the time of Jacob's trouble - Define that, and you will know the time of Tribulation. YHWH's wrath is the vengeance of YHWH because of that time. The tribulation is exercised against the people of YHWH (How can that be if His people are gone?) culminating in the appearance of one infested with the spirit of Apollo (or Apollo himself) ascending to rule the world. The cruel grip of that 'man' is what kindles YHWH's anger to vengeance. That is when Yeshua comes for his bride, to take her out of the way - To put her in her (bridal) chamber...

When she is safe, YHWH's anger is poured out on the earth (the bowls/vials)... This is the wrath we are promised to be kept from.

120 posted on 08/24/2015 12:29:25 PM PDT by roamer_1
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