[Amendment10]

"I’d kind of wonder where they are on Mary, if she was supposed to be sinless too, . . ."

Romans 3:23

[HiTech RedNeck]

When you go into that, the theology gets kind of odd to us wascally evangelicals. She is supposed to have had the unique circumstance of being completely saved before her conception. Now normally this is the point at which a human will go to heaven, but she stuck around to give birth to Jesus... I have a hard time wrapping my head around this, but it’s needed for the role they assign to her.

But at any rate, if Francis isn’t even succeeding in being Catholic, something is weird.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I’d have a harder time with the idea of being saved WITHOUT going to heaven. It just doesn’t fit the larger bible narrative. About the perishable needing to put on the imperishable, and thus forth. The company of Jesus appears to be necessary in the bible narrative to bring any kind of perfected saint back to earthly visibility. Evangelicals have a point in looking at this as a deus ex machina, after the fact construction here.