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To: ebb tide
the former Augustinian monk was as much a man of the flesh and of turbulent spirits as Pope Alexander VI (1492-1503), whose sins we are in no danger of being allowed to forget.

Only a RC could so describe a man who was so intent on crucifying his flesh that he engaged in extreme fasting, self-flagellation, and staying in the freezing cold, and later, despite intended continued celibacy, married a devoted women to whom he was faithful to, and together bore six children and raised four orphans, none of which (TMK) were known to scandalize the church. But perhaps due to giving uncritical credence to RC charges, besides actual coarse language and invectives describe him "as much a man of the flesh...as much as Pope Alexander VI. Who,

As vice chancellor of the Roman Catholic church, Rodrigo amassed enormous wealth and, despite a severe rebuke from Pope Pius II, lived as a Renaissance prince. He patronized the arts and fathered a number of children for whom he provided livings, mainly in Spain. By a Roman noblewoman, Vannozza Catanei, he had four subsequently legitimized offspring—Juan, Cesare, Jofré, and Lucrezia—whose complicated careers troubled his pontificate...

Despite the shadow of simony that surrounded the disposal of his benefices among the papal electors, Rodrigo emerged from a tumultuous conclave on the night of Aug. 10–11, 1492, as Pope Alexander VI...

Attempts to whitewash Alexander’s private conduct have proved abortive. While his religious convictions cannot be challenged, scandal accompanied his activities throughout his career. Even from a Renaissance viewpoint, his relentless pursuit of political goals and unremitting efforts to aggrandize his family were seen as excessive. - http://www.britannica.com/biography/Alexander-VI

271 posted on 03/17/2016 7:47:37 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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Two wrongs don’t make a right.


275 posted on 03/17/2016 7:53:16 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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