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To: Campion
No. The New Mass empathizes the Last Supper, but not Calvary.

In Buginini's mass, immediately after the Body and Blood of Christ is consecrated, the sheeple sometimes respond, "...until you come again". How does that indicate any semblance of transubstantiation upon the NO's "supper table"?

11 posted on 06/06/2016 11:11:58 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
The New Mass empathizes the Last Supper, but not Calvary.

"Empathizes"? Strange verb choice. The Last Supper and Calvary are two parts of a greater whole. You can't have one without the other.

In Buginini's mass, immediately after the Body and Blood of Christ is consecrated, the sheeple sometimes respond, "...until you come again".

Are you saying that a profession of belief in the Second Coming contradicts a belief in Transubstantiation? Both are de fide dogmata of the Catholic faith; if they contradict each other, they contradicted each other all along.

13 posted on 06/06/2016 11:43:22 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: ebb tide

Or to put it another way, in the TLM, the “sheeple” (or the choir, actually) sings “Et iterum venturus est cum gloria iudicare vivos et mortuos” before the consecration. Since the living and the dead aren’t judged a few minutes later at the consecration, are you saying there’s no semblance of transubstantiation in the TLM either?


14 posted on 06/06/2016 11:47:23 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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