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Student Newspaper Defends Using Aborted Baby Parts in Research: “America is Not a Christian Nation”
lifenews.com ^ | June 6, 2016 | Micaiah Bilger

Posted on 06/07/2016 2:25:15 PM PDT by Morgana

When all else fails, abortion activists often resort to the old “pro-lifers are forcing their religion on us” argument to push their agenda.

That is what a group of Indiana University student editors used to attack a new state law that protects the dignity of unborn babies by requiring that aborted babies’ bodies be buried or cremated.

The new law will help stop the kind of sale of aborted babies’ body parts that Planned Parenthood facilities in other states have been caught arranging. Although Roe v. Wade prohibits states from completely banning abortions, pro-life advocates in Indiana believe the aborted baby ought to at least be treated respectfully even if the abortion clinic treated the baby with disrespect before the abortion.

The editorial, published in the Indiana Daily Student this week, claims the law is based on religious beliefs, not facts, and will stifle scientific research at the university. Indiana University filed a lawsuit challenging the legislation in May.

The students wrote:

The Editorial Board commends IU for the legal actions it’s taken against this heinous bill. We strongly condemn the governor, our legislature and the judges that support this bill and those who unethically use their power to impose one particular religious interpretation onto a spiritually and politically diverse body of people.

… We find ourselves, yet again, having to explain America is not a Christian nation. The First Amendment prohibits passing laws that impose religious regulations on behavior onto all people. A secular university is protected by the Constitution, which should allow them to conduct research using fetal tissue, because such research is not unethical or immoral by secular standards.

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Despite the fact only 29 percent of Americans think stem cell research is “morally wrong,” despite the fact researchers never use whole fetuses at any stage in their viability and despite the fact only 19 percent of Americans think abortion should be illegal in all circumstances, Mike Pence and the Indiana legislature has chosen to pander to extremists rather than the majority of their constituents.

And they’ve done so at the expense of our education and our ability to improve treatments for numerous medical conditions that afflict millions of Americans.

… we hope the religious right might become concerned with the lives of actual human beings and less concerned with a small package of embryos.

However, the students did not do the best job with the facts themselves. In touting their pro-abortion beliefs, they ignore some important facts about the issue.

First, not all scientists say that aborted babies’ body parts are necessary or successful in research. In an op-ed in the Milwaukee Wisconsin Journal Sentinel last September, six doctors explained why using fetal “tissue” for research is unethical and unnecessary for scientists.

“The argument that fetal-derived tissues must be used in research to develop medical treatments is false,” they wrote. “Many therapies have been developed using cell lines not of fetal origin, including insulin for diabetes (produced in bacteria), Herceptin for breast cancer and tissue plasminogen activator for heart attack, stroke and pulmonary embolism (both developed in Chinese hamster ovary cells).”

As another example, abortion advocates recently attacked a U.S. Congressional committee for investigating the trafficking of aborted babies’ body parts. They claimed that aborted babies’ body parts were essential to life-saving research on the Zika virus. However, just a few days after their complaint, a group of researchers announced that they had found a potential cure for Zika using monkey and mosquito cells. No aborted baby parts were necessary.

The student editorial also mentioned strong public support for stem cell research. What they failed to mention is that stem cell research is a broad category that includes both ethical (adult stem cells) and unethical (embryonic and aborted baby cells) sides. Few, if any, Americans oppose adult stem cell research because it does not involve killing human beings. However, Americans view research that involves killing an unborn baby much less favorably.

And claiming the pro-life movement is solely Christian is just as wrong. While a majority of pro-lifers identify as Christians, others practice various religions or no religion at all. The pro-life movement increasingly is bringing people together from various belief systems to end abortion in the U.S.

The movement is based on the scientific fact that life begins at the moment of conception and America’s founding principles about human rights. These facts and principles are what unite pro-lifers to defend unborn babies from abortion.


TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: abortion; bodyparts; christian; christiannation; newspaper; prolife; university

1 posted on 06/07/2016 2:25:15 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

I’m not formally religious, but in the social sense, this person is saying that American isn’t Christian, instead it worships Ba’al.


2 posted on 06/07/2016 2:34:23 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Claiming that America is no longer a “Christian nation” is apropos of nothing at all, a complete and total non-sequitur.

One need not be Christian to believe the use of body parts from aborted infants for any purposes other than burial to be abhorrent. That is an attitude that springs from the same impulses to become a cannibal.

Some things are so anti-life, the inspiration for it must spring from some deeply demonic spark within the soul. And even most non-Christians believe in the reality and power of demonic evil. Most atheists would accept the premise of real and palpable evil in the world.


3 posted on 06/07/2016 2:45:58 PM PDT by alloysteel (The Triumph of Trump - finally, does the hegemony of the Republican elites get broken?)
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To: Morgana

We used to call it “The Indiana Daily Stupid”.


4 posted on 06/07/2016 2:52:49 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Morgana

Well, then, why not chop up these student editors for body parts? But I suppose most of them are infested with drugs.


5 posted on 06/07/2016 2:55:55 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Indeed, their argument that child sacrifices are necessary for the good of the nation IS a religious argument, whether they admit it or not.


6 posted on 06/07/2016 2:59:49 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Morgana

You don’t have to be a Christian to be disgusted by harvesting unborn humans for their marketable tissues and organs.


7 posted on 06/07/2016 3:00:21 PM PDT by Fhios (Going Donald Trump is as close to going John Galt as we'll get.)
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To: Morgana
Proverbs 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
8 posted on 06/07/2016 3:05:07 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: reg45

Let’s just raise the age of /abortion/

to +22-23...iffinthaparents don’t like

how it is working out....

We brought them into this world...

We can take them out. ( ; )

I used to ask my teenage students about raising the

age to +18...their answer was...”Dang no...I wouldn’t

be here.” Ha ha


9 posted on 06/07/2016 3:28:19 PM PDT by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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To: Morgana

OK, Indiana University Student Editors, then just sell the baby parts from Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist and Black babies.

Will that work for you?

(no, I’m not implying that any of those groups are not appalled by baby murder in the womb. I’m just trying to point out absurdity of their position.)


10 posted on 06/07/2016 3:32:46 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Morgana
“America is Not a Christian Nation”

.....not anymore, that's for sure.

Damn shame too.

11 posted on 06/07/2016 4:05:36 PM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN....JOURNALIST............... four letter words spelled with ten letters.)
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To: alloysteel
Well, the US may or may not be a "Christian Nation".

But we CERTAINLY are not a Josef Mengele experimenting on humans nation.

Whatever happened to the atheist's claim of "not needing God to be moral" argument?

Is there ANYTHING so horrible and morally wrong that it even disgusts an atheist?

12 posted on 06/07/2016 4:50:22 PM PDT by boop ("A Republic, if you can keep it."-Franklin, 1787. "We couldn't keep it"-America, 2016)
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To: Morgana
Please note that it is assumed by the Left that in order to oppose abortion (or homosexuality, or higher criticism, or Communism, or materialism, or what-have-you) that one must be chrstian. These advocates of "pluralism" and "multiculturalism" actually know only one religion: chrstianity. Everything else to them is simply an incongruous mass of secularism. They actually have no respect for other religions at all.

Do these people really believe that the moslems they now support so fanatically are "down" with all this stuff? The answer is yes, they do. They have one word with which to describe anyone who believes in G-d and believes in Theistic morality: chrstian. Everyone else is one big happy secular perverted family.

What kind of secularist believes that Genesis and Leviticus are "chrstian" books? A very stupid one.

13 posted on 06/07/2016 7:30:51 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (HaShem first! Anything else is idolatry, a violation of the very first commandment!)
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To: alloysteel
Some things are so anti-life, the inspiration for it must spring from some deeply demonic spark within the soul. And even most non-Christians believe in the reality and power of demonic evil. Most atheists would accept the premise of real and palpable evil in the world.

You nailed it: the work of Satan, no doubt about it.

14 posted on 06/07/2016 7:57:17 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Exactly! People and societies have a choice to serve Good or Evil; God or Baal. There will be no empty spiritual space. The is no “middle ground” in the spiritual or soul realm. Pick a side, learn about it and uphold it like it seriously matters.


15 posted on 06/08/2016 8:35:00 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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