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To: Gluteus Maximus
Um . . . did you just refer to Christianity as “higher paganism?”

The author of the article did. I am not the author. But I do agree with him.

As I said, the article contains proselytization for the Noachide Laws. And what's wrong with that? Why is that any different from Catholics putting down Protestantism or Eastern Orthodox putting down Catholicism?

Chrstianity has failed. Look at how white and Black chrstian "co-religionists" hate each other's guts. A common religion doesn't bring the two groups together or protect either one from the other. White chrstians worship a "white chrstian American patriot" J*sus. Black chrstians worship a jive-talking, down-with-the-struggle, pro-homosexual J*sus. And don't forget angry Hispanic "La Raza" J*sus, taking back the holy land of Mexico from the accursed gringo. It has never worked. It never will. Time to move on. The Fifties ain't comin' back.

There is no hope other than the Objectively True G-d and His Objectively True Universal Laws. And I'm sorry to offend anyone, but fcol, look. The "indefectable" Catholic Church has defected. Even Fundamentalist Protestantism is nothing like it used to be.

I know chrstians don't like to hear it. But people . . . chrstianity didn't always exist. There was already a religion. G-d had already spoken. And the TaNa"KH had already been written and canonized.

It doesn't matter what "the American religion" is. It only matters what the TRUE religion is.

13 posted on 07/13/2016 7:52:42 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
And who can forget when the crafty Hillary took one thousand dollars from the American Muslim Council and fifty thousand dollars from the American Muslim Alliance during her Senate campaign in 2000? Both groups openly support terror against Israel and praised Hamas. She was forced to return the money when word got out, despite her attempt to hide the donation by writing down the “American Museum Council” on the donor report.

There is plenty in this article we can wholeheartedly agree with each other on. Chiefly the utter downfall of our nation if we continue to elect immoral, dishonest and power/money hungry reprobates. Hillary would certainly NOT be a good thing to happen to us.

BUT...I completely reject yours and the author's opinions that Jesus is a pagan/man-god and that Christianity has "failed". It is ironical to me how it is extolled that America has been such a friend and protector of Jews and Israel while missing completely the FACT that it is/was because America was a CHRISTIAN nation that she had these responses to Jews. Our Christian faith includes the same canon of Scripture as the Jews (re: the Old Testament) and our acceptance of Jesus Christ as the Messiah and the incarnate Son of God is precisely because of the ancient witness of the Jewish prophets of Almighty God.

No, Christianity has certainly NOT failed - though some Christians fall well short of following the ideal set by our Savior. The faith has always and always will convert the soul of man from dead works of the stone-hearted flesh with its lusts and pride and create within a heart of flesh that desires to serve God and bring honor and glory to His name. The special love for the Jewish people stems from the SAME love Almighty God has for them and Christ followers know that truth most deeply because we have been indwelt with His Holy Spirit.

14 posted on 07/13/2016 11:26:24 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"Black chrstians worship a jive-talking, down-with-the-struggle, pro-homosexual J*sus."

As do most white ones. Things have changed much.


21 posted on 07/14/2016 3:38:09 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Christianity has not failed. Perhaps it is more accurate to say individual Christians have failed but not Christianity itself. That would imply Christ was a failure which would be a lie.


37 posted on 07/17/2016 8:58:44 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Chrstianity has failed. Look at how white and Black chrstian "co-religionists" hate each other's guts. A common religion doesn't bring the two groups together or protect either one from the other.

Christianity has not failed. Christ is successful in that it restores the broken relationship between God and mankind.

RELIGION has failed because religion is man made construct and I don't ever recall that it has ever promised that it was to unify mankind. As a matter of fact, if ever there was a one world religion uniting all of mankind, it would be a sure sign of the end times.

There is no hope other than the Objectively True G-d and His Objectively True Universal Laws.

The Law was never meant to make man right with God.

I suspect that you probably are either not interested in hearing from the NT, but this is what Paul, a Pharisee of the Pharisees says about the Law.

Galatians 2:15-21 We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

Galatians 3:1-29 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.

Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

God's standard is absolute perfection. Be ye holy as I am holy.

One sin and that is no longer possible for ANY man. ALl it took was one sin by Adam to bring sin and death to the whole human race and separate us from God forever. Unless God provided a way.

And He did.

46 posted on 07/20/2016 10:05:46 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Chrstianity has failed. Look at how white and Black chrstian "co-religionists" hate each other's guts. A common religion doesn't bring the two groups together or protect either one from the other. White chrstians worship a "white chrstian American patriot" J*sus. Black chrstians worship a jive-talking, down-with-the-struggle, pro-homosexual J*sus. And don't forget angry Hispanic "La Raza" J*sus, taking back the holy land of Mexico from the accursed gringo. It has never worked. It never will. Time to move on. The Fifties ain't comin' back.

Something similar could be said -- less crudely one hopes -- about secular or Reform Jews and Orthodox Jews.

And if Noachides ever amount to more than a tiny percentage of the population you'll see the same splits in your group.

For all I know, the splits are already there.

143 posted on 07/22/2016 2:41:04 PM PDT by x
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