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To: Iscool

Martin Luther placed Revelation at the end of the New Testament because he did not think it should be in the Bible. There is not six people in the world with the foggiest notion what it means — if you take it out of the context of 65AD, which is the period to which it was addressed. The mark of the beast was in full play at that time. I even saw a documentary on PBS where it mentioned it, although it was not called that. People were required to sacrifice to the emperor or face death, etc.

Moses Stuart went through it with a fine tooth comb. Its construction is amazing, and most of its contents and symbolism are taken from the Old Testament, especially Isaiah. And sometimes redirected, such as the Key of David, and Gog and Magog.

Christians have been persecuted and put to death all down through history. It is happening now in the Middle East. The North Koreans government still takes particular delight in torturing Christians.

By the way, “anti-Christ” is not mentioned in Revelation.


14 posted on 02/09/2017 6:33:30 PM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

ping


15 posted on 02/09/2017 6:43:33 PM PST by Craftmore
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To: odawg

“I even saw a documentary on PBS where it mentioned it...”

That settles it. We have our answer.


16 posted on 02/09/2017 6:44:27 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: odawg
Don't Catholic Bibles place Revelation, or Apocalypse, at the end of the New Testament? The Vulgate, the basis for traditional Catholic translations, predates Luther by over 1100 years. Irrespective of Luther's speculation about its canonicity, Bibles from all three major branches of Christianity place Revelation as the last book.

The authorities cited here are postmillenial scholars like Bahnsen, or amillenial ones like Bultmann. Amillenialism has been the predominant view of the Catholic Church since Augustine, and it was the view of Luther and Calvin. These schools of eschatology are dependent upon a pre AD 70 date for Revelation. If John had been killed during the Jewish-Roman War, then that book likely refers to the events surrounding the fall of national Israel during that conflict.

25 posted on 02/09/2017 7:22:17 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: odawg
Martin Luther placed Revelation at the end of the New Testament because he did not think it should be in the Bible.

He DID?

Where did ROME have it before then??

47 posted on 02/10/2017 4:29:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: odawg
By the way, “anti-Christ” is not mentioned in Revelation.

Or in many other places; either...


 
      
 

These are the only places that antichrist is mentioned.
 
 
 
1 John 2:18
  Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
 
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist —denying the Father and the Son.
 
1 John 4:3
but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist , which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
 
2 John 1:7
I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist .
 

48 posted on 02/10/2017 4:31:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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