[StormPrepper]

[Stormprepper]Linus lead an apostasy movement that became the Catholic church.

[Claud]Bull. You find me one ancient historical source that says that.

A logical fallacy on so many levels. You're asking me to go back in history and find a document that was, for millennia, controlled by the Catholic Church that states that the Catholic Church is an "apostasy movement". mmm k

All anyone, that is actually seeking truth, has to do is compare the actions of the Catholic Church through history, with the instructions and teachings of Christ and His Apostles. No where did Christ tell His Church to burn people at the stake or start wars in His name, just to name a few differences.

What I said earlier is all true. The Apostles were given authority under the hand of Christ Himself to lead His people. While the Catholic Church claims that Linus was the head of the Church, John, a living Apostle was still on the earth. And was talking to God face to face.

Therefore, Linus could not have been the head of the Church. Nor was Linus an Apostle. Nor have there been any Apostles in the Catholic Church. Nor prophets for that matter.

God's pattern from Adam and all through human history has been to raise up prophets and speak to them face to face to remove any confusion. The prophet then relays the message to the people.

Rev 11 is very clear that there are prophets in the last days. Again there are no prophets in the Catholic Church. That tells me that the Catholic Church cannot be Christ's true Church.

[Claud]

A logical fallacy to demand historical evidence of a historical assertion?

That’s not how this works my friend. You don’t get to invent your own history because you don’t like the sources we have. If you don’t like what Eusebius, or Irenaeus, or anyone else wrote, then show me how and where they were wrong.

And competent historians know how to pull out the opposition’s arguments from the Catholic sources. When Origen wrote “Against Celsus”, he cited many of Celsus’s arguments. Augustine’s works are full of Manichean beliefs that he refuted.