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To: Fedora; ealgeone
Jesus actually says he has not "found" anyone in Israel with such great faith, indicating those people he has found/encountered in the previous part of his Galilean ministry. This does not include his mother who knew him from birth and knew full well about his ability to perform miracles (hence her inaugurating his public ministry by requesting a miracle from him in John 2 before the incident with the centurion), nor do I think Jesus means to place the centurion's faith above Moses or Elijah's or various other OT prophets with this statement.

Where is that found in Scripture?

Is that official church teaching or YOPIOS, your own personal interpretation of Scripture?

How do you know what Jesus meant and who was included or excluded from His comment?

Mary never requested a miracle from Him at the wedding of Cana.

She simply notified Him that they ran out of wine and told the servants to do whatever He told them.

563 posted on 05/13/2017 8:34:40 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; Fedora
Jesus actually says he has not "found" anyone in Israel with such great faith, indicating those people he has found/encountered in the previous part of his Galilean ministry. This does not include his mother who knew him from birth and knew full well about his ability to perform miracles (hence her inaugurating his public ministry by requesting a miracle from him in John 2 before the incident with the centurion), nor do I think Jesus means to place the centurion's faith above Moses or Elijah's or various other OT prophets with this statement.

That is exactly what the Greek is saying.

567 posted on 05/13/2017 9:43:02 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom
She simply notified Him that they ran out of wine and told the servants to do whatever He told them.

Wink-wink...


"I'll be back later to straighten this mess out!"

570 posted on 05/13/2017 3:23:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
How do you know what Jesus meant and who was included or excluded from His comment?

Deduction from the context, i.e., this is a passage that occurs in the chapters describing his Galilean ministry; and from the fact that Mary was already aware of his supernatural nature in Luke 1 and John 2.

Mary never requested a miracle from Him at the wedding of Cana.

She simply notified Him that they ran out of wine and told the servants to do whatever He told them.

Why would she bother telling him if she didn't know He could solve the problem, and why would He regard her comment as involving him if no request was implied?

581 posted on 05/21/2017 4:35:07 AM PDT by Fedora
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