Posted on 07/06/2017 6:02:05 PM PDT by fishtank
The Benefit of Christ – The Most Influential Book You Have Never Read
By Simonetta Carr
It was 1543. North of the Alps, Protestant reformers were busy publishing books. In Rome, the papacy was busy banning them. Still, the publishers in Venice, a proudly independent republic with a reputation of opposition to the pope, were persistent. That year’s best-seller was an Italian essay by a characteristically long name: Trattato utilissimo del beneficio di Giesù Cristo crocifisso verso i cristiani (Most useful treatise on the benefit of Jesus Christ crucified for Christians). It was called, for short, Il Beneficio di Cristo (The Benefit of Christ). A Much Hated Best-Seller HOME COLUMNS ABOUT SUBSCRIBE DONATE Cloud of Witnesses By Simonetta Carr The Benefit of Christ – The Most Influential Book You Have Never Read print It was 1543. North of the Alps, Protestant reformers were busy publishing books. In Rome, the papacy was busy banning them. Still, the publishers in Venice, a proudly independent republic with a reputation of opposition to the pope, were persistent. That year’s best-seller was an Italian essay by a characteristically long name: Trattato utilissimo del beneficio di Giesù Cristo crocifisso verso i cristiani (Most useful treatise on the benefit of Jesus Christ crucified for Christians). It was called, for short, Il Beneficio di Cristo (The Benefit of Christ).
.... A Much Hated Best-Seller
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http://www.placefortruth.org/blog/benefit-christ-%E2%80%93-most-influential-book-you-have-never-read
Thanks. I posted on an I-spaz, and it wasn’t formatted too well, I admit
Thank you. Fascinating. Wonder how the article author became aware of it
” In 1567, Roman authorities extracted, by torture, a confession from humanist Pietro Carnesecchi (1508-1567), who had been guilty of mingling in pro-Lutheran circles. The torture and interrogation lasted many days, with the intent of obtaining names, including the name of the author of The Benefit.
” Carnesecchi finally revealed the book was written by an obscure Benedictine monk, Benedetto Fontanini, also known as Benedetto da Mantova (1495-1556). After writing it, Benedetto passed it on to poet Marcantonio Flaminio (1498-1550) for a literary revision. Being both dead, these men escaped death at the hand of the inquisition. Carnesecchi, on the other hand, was found guilty on 34 accounts (mostly doctrines that today’s Protestants would find highly orthodox) and was beheaded and then burned.
” In 1567, Roman authorities extracted, by torture, a confession from humanist Pietro Carnesecchi (1508-1567), who had been guilty of mingling in pro-Lutheran circles. The torture and interrogation lasted many days, with the intent of obtaining names, including the name of the author of The Benefit. Carnesecchi finally revealed the book was written by an obscure Benedictine monk, Benedetto Fontanini, also known as Benedetto da Mantova (1495-1556). After writing it, Benedetto passed it on to poet Marcantonio Flaminio (1498-1550) for a literary revision. Being both dead, these men escaped death at the hand of the inquisition. Carnesecchi, on the other hand, was found guilty on 34 accounts (mostly doctrines that today’s Protestants would find highly orthodox) and was beheaded and then burned.
Rome: mistook a spiritual body for worldly authority - and sinned gravely.
She seems to do a lot of work in historical matters.
A Catholic-bashing thread?
I think:
(1) 500 years of the Reformation is worth celebrating.
(2) A worthwhile book that very few people are aware of, is worth investigation.
(3) It’s intriguing that there were countries where the Reformation took root, grew and flourished.
(4) It’s sobering to remember the history of countries where the Reformation took root, and then was crushed, burned and strangled out of existence. France, Italy, etc etc.
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Ephesians Ch. 2
World English Bible (WEB)
1 You were made alive when you were dead in transgressions and sins,
2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the children of disobedience;
3 among whom we also all once lived in the lust of our flesh, doing the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.
4 But God, being rich in mercy, for his great love with which he loved us,
5 even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
6 and raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
7 that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus;
8 for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
9 not of works, that no one would boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared before that we would walk in them.
By the way, your screen-name is actually not possible if you are in the RCC.
The RCC really doesn’t believe in “Salvation”, since they teach that Jesus is NOT the 100% Savior.
In their mind, He only died for 51%, 75, 99.97% etc of sin.
They have NEVER said that He died for 100% of sin.
Catechism of the Catholic Church
| 1741 Liberation and salvation. By his glorious Cross Christ has won salvation for all men. He redeemed them from the sin that held them in bondage. "For freedom Christ has set us free." In him we have communion with the "truth that makes us free." The Holy Spirit has been given to us and, as the Apostle teaches, "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." Already we glory in the "liberty of the children of God." |
More for updating the mistaken ideas expressed.
http://ccc.scborromeo.org.master.com/texis/master/search/?sufs=0&q=salvation&xsubmit=Search&s=SS
I read some of these about 30 years ago:
“CANON XI.-If any one saith, that men are justified, either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ, or by the sole remission of sins, to the exclusion of the grace and the charity which is poured forth in their hearts by the Holy Ghost, and is inherent in them; or even that the grace, whereby we are justified, is only the favour of God; let him be anathema.
CANON XII.-If any one saith, that justifying faith is nothing else but confidence in the divine mercy which remits sins for Christ’s sake; or, that this confidence alone is that whereby we are justified; let him be anathema.
CANON XIII.-If any one saith, that it is necessary for every one, for the obtaining the remission of sins, that he believe for certain, and without any wavering arising from his own infirmity and disposition, that his sins are forgiven him; let him be anathema.
CANON XIV.-If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because that he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema.
CANON XV.-If any one saith, that a man, who is born again and justified, is bound of faith to believe that he is assuredly in the number of the predestinate; let him be anathema.
CANON XVI.-If any one saith, that he will for certain, of an absolute and infallible certainty, have that great gift of perseverance unto the end,-unless he have learned this by special revelation; let him be anathema.
CANON XVII.-If any one saith, that the grace of Justification is only attained to by those who are predestined unto life; but that all others who are called, are called indeed, but receive not grace, as being, by the divine power, predestined unto evil; let him be anathema.
CANON XVIII.-If any one saith, that the commandments of God are, even for one that is justified and constituted in grace, impossible to keep; let him be anathema.
CANON XIX.-If any one saith, that nothing besides faith is commanded in the Gospel; that other things are indifferent, neither commanded nor prohibited, but free; or, that the ten commandments nowise appertain to Christians; let him be anathema.”......
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I left the RCC.
They’ve been wrong for CENTURIES.
Thank you for the post.
The Catholic Church is right.
You are getting incorrect information from someone or somewhere.
Until Luther everything was Catholic. Luther was wrong and all other churches that followed that path are wrong, too.
You are constantly conflating the whole body of believers in Jesus as THEIR Savior and the org (rhymes with Borg) known as the Roman Catholic Church. This is a purposed deception, which makes you ... aw, you know.
From whence did I post those canons 11 through 19?
Also, it’s NOT “Luther’s right and Rome is wrong.”
No, not one bit, it’s that you truly need God to show you the power of His salvation:
” having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever. “ 1 Pt 1:23
Catholics are all saved at their Baptism.
Catholics believing as you have stated better be ready to change their tune AFTER the Rapture which is coming soon. They may be alive and have the chance to get Salvation then. Don't turn your back on Jesus by trying to hide behind the ISM of your Org.
Mistake.
The rite of Baptism:
Priest: “I baptize thee in the name of the Father, (pours water), and of the Son, (pours water), and of the Holy Spirit. (pours water)
Person being baptized or Godparents: Amen
When the Holy Spirit enters someone, are they already saved when they speak in tongues and interpret the spiritual language?
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