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To: ebb tide; boatbums
Goldstein further points out that Luther denied the binding force of the moral law: “We must remove the Decalogue out of sight and heart” (De Wette, IV, 188),

And for context....something lost on the romman catholic.

'Hare documents it as De Wette 4, 188. "De Wette" refers to a collection of Luther's letters. The source is actually Luther's letter to Jerome Weller from 1530. I have that letter posted here, and I also have a follow up post planned on the entirety of the letter. The relevant section is:

When I drink my wine unmixed, prattle with the greatest unconcern, eat more frequently, do you think that I have any other reason for doing these things than to scorn and spite the devil who has attempted to spite and scorn me? Would God I could commit some real brave sin to ridicule the devil, that he might see that I acknowledge no sin and am not conscious of having committed any. We must put the whole law entirely out of our eyes and hearts,--we, I say, whom the devil thus assails and torments. Whenever the devil charges us with our sins and pronounces us guilty of death and hell, we ought to say to him: I admit that I deserve death and hell; what, then, will happen to me? Why, you will be eternally damned! By no means; for I know One who has suffered and made satisfaction for me. His name is Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Where He abides, there will I also abide.

http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2010/02/luther-we-must-remove-decalogue-ten.html

I really don't care about Luther.

I just wanted to expose the deceit in your post.

bb may have more on this.

16 posted on 08/18/2017 2:11:16 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; boatbums
When I drink my wine unmixed, prattle with the greatest unconcern, eat more frequently, do you think that I have any other reason for doing these things than to scorn and spite the devil who has attempted to spite and scorn me? Would God I could commit some real brave sin to ridicule the devil, that he might see that I acknowledge no sin and am not conscious of having committed any. We must put the whole law entirely out of our eyes and hearts,--we, I say, whom the devil thus assails and torments. Whenever the devil charges us with our sins and pronounces us guilty of death and hell, we ought to say to him: I admit that I deserve death and hell; what, then, will happen to me? Why, you will be eternally damned! By no means; for I know One who has suffered and made satisfaction for me. His name is Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Where He abides, there will I also abide.

Thanks for having proved my point. Only a deranged man would think committing a brave sin, or any other sin, is ridiculing the devil.

The guy was a nut who only ridiculed God as he pleased Satan.

18 posted on 08/18/2017 2:21:17 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone; ebb tide
ET knows where to go to find CONTEXT for quote-mining of Martin Luther. For those who want to be thorough and honestly discuss the words of Martin Luther, this is a good place http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/.

Those who only want to provoke and smear by association all those who are Christians but not Roman Catholics, nothing will satisfy, but we already know that.

39 posted on 08/18/2017 6:36:02 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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