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To: piusv

More on this from Saint Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, which Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop de Castro-Mayer apparently decided not to include in the inquiry of 1983:

Now the fifth true opinion, is that a Pope who is a manifest heretic, ceases in himself to be Pope and head, just as he ceases in himself to be a Christian and member of the body of the Church: whereby, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics soon [mox] lose all jurisdiction, and namely St. Cyprian who speaks on Novation, who was a Pope in schism with Cornelius: “He cannot hold the Episcopacy, although he was a bishop first, he fell from the body of his fellow bishops and from the unity of the Church” [332].

From De Romano Pontifice, Book II, Chapter 30

What would have happened had the Archbishop and Bishop followed up with the above observation of Saint Robert Bellarmine?

(Above quote cited from http://novusordowatch.org/de-romano-pontifice-book2-chapter30/)

You don’t suppose that the Dubia cardinals who have been stood up by Francis “the Pope of Mercy and Dialog” (no comment to their all too important Dubia) will get anywhere near the conclusions of the saint do you? They seem to realize that not only would Francis’ goose be cooked but theirs as well, for they each signed on to the Novus Ordo mess long ago, and would need to renounce numerous heresies personally, and would thus become outlawed by the Novus Ordo apostates.

Why, they could be out on the street without a job! Maybe one could fill in for a protestant minister, one such as Muller, who doesn’t really believe in transubstantiation!

Having no response from their pontiff they offer the Novus Ordo flock no meaningful follow-up, just platitudes. Will the Novus Ordites INSIST that they prosecute Francis? Or will they just acquiesce and blissfully go on with life as the drama unfolds?


2 posted on 08/19/2017 11:12:59 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Repent and Believe
Most Holy Father, it is urgently necessary that this disarray come to an end because the flock is dispersing and the abandoned sheep are following mercenaries. We beseech you, for the good of the Catholic Faith and for the salvation of souls, to reaffirm the truths, contrary to these errors, truths which have been taught for twenty centuries in the Church.

And the SSPX etal is still waiting for this reaffirmation for 50+ years now.

As it will be for "the Dubia"....

3 posted on 08/19/2017 12:24:38 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: Repent and Believe
More on this from Saint Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, which Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop de Castro-Mayer apparently decided not to include in the inquiry of 1983

Yes, for some reason the fifth (and true) opinion is always overlooked. It is my understanding that Bishop de Castro-Mayer finally came to the truth behind the 5th opinion.

4 posted on 08/19/2017 12:31:45 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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