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To: Ken Regis
what that means is we don't necessarily DESERVE to be saved, but God does it out of HIS love....

but one must SHOW their own love of God....by doing good, refraining from sin...

I know so many so called "Christians" who's only objective is to get the name of "Jesus" in their prayers as often as they can...

otherwise, they cheat the govt and others and lie all the time....

the more they proclaim how great a Christian they are, the more I distrust them...the more they say they are "saved" the more suspect they are...

13 posted on 09/02/2017 7:25:10 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
what that means is we don't necessarily DESERVE to be saved, but God does it out of HIS love....

but one must SHOW their own love of God....by doing good, refraining from sin... (Every one of us continues to sin but "yes" we should "refrain" or repent from sin. Christians are not under the "dominion" of sin. God always provided the way out. The choice is ours.)

I know so many so called "Christians" who's only objective is to get the name of "Jesus" in their prayers as often as they can...

otherwise, they cheat the govt and others and lie all the time....

the more they proclaim how great a Christian they are, the more I distrust them...the more they say they are "saved" the more suspect they are...

16 posted on 09/02/2017 7:39:19 PM PDT by Ken Regis
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To: cherry

That is my (humble) understanding as well.

Christ said without Him we can do nothing.

But He does want us—with and through Him—to do something, doesn’t He?

“For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in..”

He says if you love Him, you will keep His commandments. Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself. Isn’t that works?

If we love Him, and He makes His abode with us, we will bear much fruit, no?

This debate over works is very puzzling to a simpleton like me. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. We all know we are sinners, and we need His mercy to save us.

But if we believe in our salvation, aren’t we bursting with love and thanksgiving and don’t we yearn to do for Him as He wants us to do?

Not for our own glory. He tells us how to do it — let not your left hand know what your right hand is doing. Your Father who sees you in secret will reward you openly.

Further..

“And when ye shall have DONE all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.”

So we all know we can’t work our way to salvation —all good things are from above. The love in my heart is from above. The cleansing of my putrid soul is from above.

And so when he says, “Inasmuch as ye have done it to the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me”, doesn’t that make you want to DO for Him? Out of intense love and thanksgiving?

So you do it, and then you say, I am Thine unprofitable servant. You pray for mercy, you thank Him, and hopefully you do it again tomorrow, Lord willing.

Sorry to go on and on. I just don’t understand what there is to argue about. I am sure I am just stupid.


48 posted on 09/02/2017 10:33:36 PM PDT by GCFADG (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: cherry
what that means is we don't necessarily DESERVE to be saved, but God does it out of HIS love.... but one must SHOW their own love of God....by doing good, refraining from sin...

To whom are we "showing" our faith by our works? Doesn't God see our hearts and know whether our faith is genuine or faked? Nobody deserves salvation - that's why it is by grace that we are saved THROUGH FAITH and not of ourselves.

    And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. (I John 4:10)

108 posted on 09/03/2017 8:12:59 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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