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To: Ken Regis

The argument in this post is not what most people believe in any way.

Those who say that faith saves are correct. Those that say that Grace saves are correct. Those that say the Blood of Christ saves are correct. I do not know of anyone who says that works save.

Now, the above is basic and true but there is so much more. What are works? Works are what follows people of faith. It is works that show faith.

So many people believe that they can go to Christ with their sins and ask to be saved with no effort on their part and be saved, but they are wrong.

Works save nobody. Works however are important, how you might ask. If you don’t have works then you don’t have faith. James tells us that faith without works is dead. He also says that if you show him your works he will show you your faith.

Faith is a requirement to be eligible for the Grace that is freely given to those who ask. Placing your sins on the altar of God is the work of our lives. Before Christ people used to place animals on the altar to remind them that one day Christ would come and place himself on the Altar and pay for our sins like we were paying for them with animal sacrifices. We don’t do animal sacrifice anymore, we put our sins away on the altar, we give them away to receive the gift that The Savior wants so give us. We don’t just stop sinning, we feel sorrow for the sins we have heaped upon the Lords back that He had to pay for. So, does sorrow save? No. Sorrow is evidence however of repentance which is evidence of faith. While none of those save, saving doesn’t happen without them.

I’m not Catholic but I have to believe that is what they mean when they talk about works.

Perhaps a good Catholic could school us all on this point.

I’ll put my flame resistant suit on now and see what others have to say.


32 posted on 09/02/2017 8:38:30 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at leMPGast as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig

Is your tagline configured correctly, FRiend?


34 posted on 09/02/2017 8:52:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: JAKraig

You have it right brother! If you show faith, you do good, despite your sinning. Catholics do not believe that you ‘earn’ salvation, if that were true, we know where we would all end up. Your statement about James is on the mark, in other words, saying you believe is just talk, you have to walk the walk the best that you can. Neither do I think most protestants believe that you can believe while ignoring the commandments without repenting and that you are still saved.


80 posted on 09/03/2017 10:18:22 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: JAKraig
?I do not know of anyone who says that works save.

True.

But many folks WILL say that works will allow you to KEEP your salvation.

(Insert quote from James here)

127 posted on 09/04/2017 4:32:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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