Posted on 09/07/2017 12:34:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
How do you argue with God?
What do you say when someone says, God told me to do it?”
I have the same reaction to a man’s “God told me to do it,” as I do to the man who says, “The devil made me do it.” Way down deep something tells me that, whether God or devil, it was the man’s own desires that had a lot to do with it.
I certainly don’t want to second guess God. But neither do I want to give the first guess to a blinded believer. Am I fighting God if I question the man’s claim? Must I get behind him and his project simply and solely because he says God told him to do it? Is his claim my last court of appeal?
A man who flatly says, “God told me to do it,” may be absolutely right. However, the possibility is there that he could be absolutely wrong. He could be “using” God to con me into cooperation. Or, to be more charitable, he could be seeking reinforcement for his conviction because of an uncertainty that nags at him in his own heart. So, by emphatically stating that “God told me to do it,” he “signs” God’s signature to his own idea, and puts me in a position of challenging God!
Jeez, you wanna put televangelists out of work?
So you are trying to say that God never speaks to us except through His word? Is there scripture to show that God has stopped speaking to us?
Ouch!
I talked to Him this morning and He told me that Josh Bruce is a bonehead.
It gets a little dicey though. When i was a kid, the deacons told the preacher that God told them it was time for our church to find a new preacher.
He said God told him the exact opposite. So there they were, in a Mexican standoff.
I was in a southern gospel band here in central KY for about two years. We played at a lot of those small churches, mostly baptist.
I heard so much unmitigated crap coming from those “lay-prachers” that I had finally had it one day and challenged what he was saying, though very discretely.
The problem is that this was the culture of the rest of the band - listening to preachers yell for a half hour without really focusing on any partucular message, with one of the elders occasionally yelling, “preach it, brother.”
So I was fired from the band. They only kept me in as long as they did because I’m a pretty good bass player and they nicknamed me “The Professor” because I seemed to know a lot of stuff they didn’t know. They already knew I was challenged by a lot of what I was hearing and they knew I was about to blow. And none of them would even listen to what I was trying to say. Not one. i.e. they were part of that culture.
It’s sad that a person can say almost anything from a pulpit and people will just believe it because, well, it’s coming from “God’s house”.
/rant
From a special edition of Hannity's America, October 5, 2008
Episode title: "Obama & Friends: History of Radicalism"
YouTube: "Another Obama Mentor [Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour] Caught Ranting Against Whitey":
whatever you do to [white people], they deserve it, God wants you to do it and thats when you cut out the nose, cut out the ears, take flesh out of their body, dont worry because God wants you to do it.
I hope this isn’t a caucus thread, and if it is, please accept my apologies and delete my post.
But I feel exactly the same way. Hillary Clinton is now saying God told her to do [fill in the blank]. I’m a Catholic, and our heretic Marxist atheist pope is now saying God told him to [fill in the blank].
How many black nationalists were in Obama’s background?
How many black nationalists were in Obama’s administration?
"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".
--African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
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SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"
WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.
HANNITY: But I'm a reverend
WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?
There was a time when ‘God told me’ I wasn’t done doing something when I thought I was. So I kept on. It wasn’t nearly as simple as it sounds.
I can see his point and agree strongly. Whenever I hear someone say “God told me” I pretty much know that what’s coming next will disagree with Scripture, as in, this person got some special “word” from God allowing them to engage in what the rest of us call sin.
I won't say that. I will say this: If you claim "God told me X, Y and Z" I am not required to believe you, unless it's a direct quote from Scripture.
Revelation 22:18
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book.
Funny you should post this. I have been having some real concerns about people, mostly those connected with prophesy, who repeatedly say this phrase. Here’s the very serious problem.
First, it conspicuously sets the preacher in the position that God exclusively talks to him, or at least gives that person special information that others are not privy to. This suggests the preacher is on another plain and is to be viewed as such. This is a pride issue, attracting attention to the supposed messenger rather than the message.
Second, it tacitly tells listeners that they cannot hear from God the way THIS preacher hears from God. While all gifts are certainly different, God can and will speak to everyone who calls upon His name.
I am disturbed by seeing this trend more and more.
“This suggests the preacher is on another plain and is to be viewed as such.”
Really. If a preacher tells you God is talking specifically to him, run like the wind. Cult...
I remember watching that interview with Obama’s spiritual mentor, the “Reverend” Wright. I remember thinking at the time “why is he bringing up this Cone theology? He’s just saying from the get-go that his own theology is BS.”
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008
In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obamas pastor in a heated interview about his Churchs teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...
Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080418230231/http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30cd9e14-b0c9-4f8c-a0a6-a896f0f44f02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004
In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.
The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://web.archive.org/web/20081201073440/http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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