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To: Ezekiel; SubMareener

“It’s what’s in a person’s heart, and *that* ‘tamid’ is in a person’t heart. Just check out the word lev (lamed bet), ‘heart’. The letters of the word spelled out are:
lamed mem dalet, bet yud tav.
The revealed letters are lamed bet which is lev; the concealed letters spell tamid.”

That’s very interesting. I did not know that.

“in Daniel is only where tamid is used as a stand alone definite noun, *the* tamid. The always/continual/perpetual [thing]. It is not used to modify any type of sacrifices or anything else. In all those other cases, the hei prefix is the grammar form for tamid being used as a modifier.”

We do the same in English. If you do a web search on the word “daily,” you will get a page full of links to news websites. A very long time ago “daily” became associated with news. Now there are news organizations that use the term as a noun just like Daniel does. We tend to think of “daily” as a noun referring to the news.

In the film business, it used to be common to call the daily, raw, unedited film takes, “dailies.” It was kind of a shorthand for a basic ingredient of the filmmaking process. Again, “daily” the adjective was being used as a noun.

The Jews in Daniel’s time (many years after the original use of the term in Numbers) came to think of the term as a general summary of the various daily sacrifices that were part of temple worship.

Hattamid is used 5 times in Daniel. Each time is connected to the sanctuary. And, according to 11:31, the abomination of desolation will take the place of hattamid. Jesus taught that this abomination, precisely the one that Daniel spoke of, would “stand” in the holy place.

So I agree with your point about the way Daniel uses the word. And it might be reasonable to examine its meaning to be sure assumptions we make about such passages are accurate. It is, however, unreasonable for someone to simply interject into the passage whatever idea they like or prefer for it to mean in order to fit into preconceived prophetic paradigms.

And that is what I was addressing. SubMareener simply asserts that the “daily” thing that is taken away is NOT the daily sacrifices of the third temple (at least in the particular passage he was citing in Daniel 8:11).

SubMareener: “So what is ‘the daily’ that will be ‘taken away’? Well, it is certainly not the daily sacrifices that the Jews will present in the Third Temple, because that is what the anti-Christ will do at the midpoint.”

But it is exactly the idea of the perpetual, daily sacrifice being taken away that connects the passages together and helps us make sense of them. There is no daily sacrifice today. In order for it to be taken away, it must first be restored. And while I would not be dogmatic about it, I think this may be connected to the ministry of Elijah who will “come and restore all things” according to Matthew 17:11.


46 posted on 09/22/2017 4:47:55 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner
You provide valid and useful points about the common uses of "daily" as a noun. But because Daniel's usage is different from the rest, I not assuming it refers to the removal of Temple sacrifices. It will make plain sense when it makes sense. The usual conclusion is that there needs to be a Temple and sacrificial system in place before a lot of things happen. This tends to make people hit the snooze button, expecting that there needs to be a Temple before SHTF.

A zillion prophecy gurus fall in lockstep with a "settled" premise [of a rebuilt Temple] and from there sell their various interpretations. I keep the popcorn popped. I perceive that it won't go down in a way most are anticipating. It will be interesting to say the least. And soon.

47 posted on 09/22/2017 5:20:18 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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