Posted on 10/02/2017 10:38:38 PM PDT by Morgana
If you see a Methodist church get hit by lightning, this may explain why:
United Methodist Church bishop Dr. Karen Oliveto is not only a lesbian, she also believes (and publicly teaches) that Jesus was a bigot filled with prejudices. She does say that Jesus grew and changed, and thats her point. Bishop Oliveto admonishes, If Jesus can change, if he can give up his bigotries and prejudices, if he can realize that he had made his life too small, and if, in this realization, he grew closer to others and closer to God, than so can we.
The United Methodist Church has been on the descent into apostasy for years now. While the denomination is currently in the midst of their 75 weeks of praying about accepting homosexuality, they have long allowed pastors of their churches to go against their current beliefs on the matter. In 2005, Karen Oliveto, a non-celibate lesbian, officiated several same-sex marriages that were held in the United Methodist church she pastored.
Olivetos teachings cover the range of normal progressive Christian beliefs the denial of the exclusivity of the Christian faith and the denial of the authority of the Bible, to name two. However, its her direct attack on certain Bible passages and Biblical figures that has caused some within the UMC to be concerned.
Any remaining Christians in the Methodist community must be starting to realize that they are the victims of a bait and switch.
If Jesus was imperfect, if he was bigoted and unloving, there is very little reason to listen to what he had to say or to look to him for salvation. Frankly, thats probably exactly what Oliveto is moving toward a complete discarding of Jesus and the Bible altogether.
You can only worship one god at a time. If the people in control of the United Methodist Church did not worship moonbattery, they would not allow blasphemous degenerates like Karen Oliveto to become bishops. The objective is to hollow out Christianity, leaving only the outer shell but replacing the insides with leftist ideology.
Pharaoh Ramses at least had an excuse, being born a pagan.
Bishop Karen is going to have a lot of trouble claiming invincible ignorance.
OMG! What has happened that at a funeral a minister could try such a cheap and wrong (conservatives are more generous) stunt?
Tonight I was shopping at QFC and suddenly over the loudspeaker was some sort of of pitch in which I heard the world “racism”. WHAT? I’m trying to buy dinner and my grocery store has gone political??? I’m SICK of the overused word racism. I sent Kroger an email and told them I wss going to the store up the street. Who needs this???
No lightning, however this “bishop” is in for a very uncomfortable encounter when she passes from this life.
Jesus was not a bigot, he accepted all kinds of people. However, unlike this “bishop” he demands one of the most difficult things you can ask of a human being; the admission that you were wrong, that you are a miserable sinner, and that you must ask for forgiveness.
In her twisted view of scripture, the Bible is a get out of hell free card instead of a demanding rule book.
If the members of that church want to put up with it, let’m roll.
I’m reminded of the words to the chorus of the Kingston Trio’s, “The Reverend Mr. Black”.
It goes:
“You gotta walk,
That lonesome valley;
You gotta walk,
It by yourself;
Oh, nobody else,
Can walk it for you;
You gotta walk, it by yourself.”
Years ago, she would have been met by the whole congregation on Sunday morning, collectively saying, “GET OUT!”.
Seminaries have long been elitist heresy factories.
Churchianity is an abomination.
I wasn’t clear:
the minister was the deceased and the pennies were his “parting gift” to his friends.
a real winner he must have been.
As to the use of “racism”, I just tell a black that if I were a racist they would have died as soon as I saw them.
that usually shuts them up. :)
Time to Call for a New Preacher!
I am being transformed into a bigot?
The hierarchy of the UMC are lunatics.
Sorry heretic Lesbo— our God never changes but you have and for the worse.
If Jesus was imperfect as this woman says, then He could not have been the "sacrificial Lamb" that atoned for all men's sins. Satan is whispering in her ear giving her excuses for her sins so that she will not feel the need for any atonement. So sad!
I’m thinking that purporting to be a Christian “teacher” and calling Jesus/God names might be real close to that “blaspheme the Holy Spirit” unforgivable type sin.....
The mainstream churches have gone over to the left, and the Catholic church, under Francis, is running rapidly behind them.
Has she committed the unforgivable sin?
Mark 3:2230 and Matthew 12:2232. Jesus said, Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin (verse 29).
This poor soul has no wisdom. All that churchianity and no wisdom, terrible really.
There are 31 proverbs... read one per day on the corresponding day of the month. If it is a short month read the extra proverbs on the kast day.
To gain control over Church assets to serve Leftist purposes.
From my favorite CS Lewis’s work, The Great Divorce(1946) , dialog from an apostate episcopal ghost “I’m taking the text about growing up to the measure of the stature of Christ and working out an idea which I feel sure you’ll be interested in. I’m going to point out how people always forget that Jesus (here the Ghost bowed) was a comparatively young man when he died. He would have outgrown some of his earlier views, you know, if he’d lived. As he might have done, with a little more tact and patience.” — this used to be exaggerated caricatures!
It's convenient to ignore scripture that condemns our worldview and lifestyle.
Romans Chapter 1 explains that homosexuality is a grave sin. We ignore this passage to our own hurt.
Although the UM Judicial Council has ruled against her evidently nobody has the guts to kick her out.
I heard Jesus was an anti-Semite also.
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