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To: arthurus

What makes you think that Job wasn’t the Joel Osteen of his age? In order to have gorgeous daughters, one has to have a gorgeous wife. ;-)

Here is more of the rest of the story, that you may have missed. God told people to give money and gold to Job and have Job pray for them.

JOB42:07 And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.
JOB42:08 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.
JOB42:09 So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the LORD commanded them: the LORD also accepted Job.
JOB42:10 And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.
JOB42:11 Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.

God. KING JAMES BIBLE TOUCH - KJV (Kindle Locations 22617-22628). Kindle Edition.


18 posted on 10/11/2017 9:54:46 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SubMareener
Here is more of the rest of the story, that you may have missed. God told people to give money and gold to Job and have Job pray for them.

Wow...did you miss the point of those scriptures.

Job's friends had given him bad advice and false teachings while Job was suffering.

God, being decidedly upset with them, said that unless they made a burnt offering, and allowed Job to pray for them, He wouldn't accept their prayers.

THEN all of Jobs friends and relatives (that were still alive) returned to him and brought him gifts. God didn't command them to give gifts to Job, they just did because they felt sorry for all the loss and pain he had gone through.

This is not the same thing as paying a pastor. Not even close.

19 posted on 10/11/2017 10:07:18 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: SubMareener
I could be wrong, but as near as I can tell, Osteen's income comes from the books he writes, not Lakewood.

I don't know how many he's written nor how many of those have become best sellers, but it's a lot of books!

I've not read one, but I listen to him on XM while driving and I like his style and humor. His material is actually quite good and time tested.

I know first hand how valuable taking charge of one's thinking can be, especially if one's thoughts are then refocused on God, instead of the often negative and harshly critical thoughts about others, our lives and our selves that so often makes up much of our inner dialog.

His material works and he presents it well. I'm not surprised he's well rewarded for sharing what the Holy Spirit shares with him.

Ultimately, it's his money to do with as he pleases, of course, but I imagine that he also gives much to receive as much he has. "First giving what you want to receive to then receive what you want" is not an uncommon theme with him and I imagine he lives as he preaches.

I've been wrong before, of course, but after listening to so many of his stories while driving, to me he seems too goofy/geeky and wholesome to be anything else but that. He probably was and always has been one of those "good like a good Christian should be" kids.

Lots of gossip and fake news in our times and people love to hate on Joel Osteen and how God made him. And... I hate to admit that I used to frequently sing in that same choir, too.

Tricky fellow, that Satan character, getting me to righteously bear false witness like that, but I was wrong about Osteen and what I did was wrong.

During my trials and tribulations these last many years, his material has been very helpful for me and my thinking. I'm better for having taken it to heart.

I thank the Holy Spirit for using Osteen as He does and Osteen for being so receptive to doing what God placed in front of him to do.

28 posted on 10/11/2017 11:08:56 AM PDT by GBA (A = 432)
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