Was Luther Insane?

Tabletalk Magazin ^ | 10/25/2017 | R. C. Sproul

[BipolarBob]

In a hundred years from now will they be asking if Pope Frankie was insane?

[Zionist Conspirator]

For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

Luther must have stopped reading there, because in the very next verse, v. 29, St. Paul makes it clear what "works of the law" mean in this context: "For is God the God of the Jews only?" So "works of the Law" in Romans 3 is something that pertains to "the Jews only"; that is, the ceremonial law of the Old Testament.

We are indeed "justfied by faith apart" from the ceremonial law of the Old Testament, but no Catholic in Luther's day claimed otherwise.

And the truth comes out.

Historical chrstianity was not against "works;" it was against the Biblical ritual and ceremonial, which it replaced with a post-Biblical ritual and ceremonial that was somehow "superior" because it was post-Biblical. How dare anyone expect internal consistency from opponents of the Torah?

Yes . . . a ritual and ceremonial given by G-d's very Mouth to Moses and Israel was to be replaced by a "superior" one which developed slowly over time based on the pagan calendar and the seasons. And not only that, but the Biblical ceremonial was henceforth forbidden! (You know, kinda like how the old prohibition against homosexuality has been replaced by a new prohibition against "homophobia?") No wonder the world is upside down. The current situation was a long time coming.

As for all you poor saps who grew up believing J*sus "took your place in hell" so you wouldn't have to go there, behold the truth! He died to replace a Divine religion with a human one, the words of G-d with the Julian/Gregorian calendar, tefillin with rosary beads, and the Qorbanot with the "holy sacrifice of the mass!" In other words, he didn't die for your sins; he died to start a new religion!

No wonder Catholics reject the facticity of the Hebrew Bible. They'd have to admit that G-d personally authored the "old law." So now they practice "historical criticism" so they can say that it was a product of long historical evolution just like their own made-up rituals!

[huldah1776]

Actually in the Old Testament, too.

Elohe Tsadeki (Psalms 4:1) - GOD of My Righteousness

Jehovah Tsidkenu (Jeremiah 23:6) – The LORD Our Righteousness

Read more: http://the-many-names-of-god.com/christianity/old-testament-hebrew-names-god/#ixzz4x6LFsc3y

[huldah1776]

I was always taught that Jesus FULFILLED the Law, and therefore was the only human who was righteous while living and could actually make the required sacrifice. He did not abolish the heart of the Law.

I would be interested in your view of the coming Messhiah.

[fishtank]

Insanity of Martin Luther

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3578559/posts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVTtLnWqhbY

[huldah1776]

Great themes. Does your pastor post his sermons online?

[Mark17]

Thank God for Luther. 😀😆😄

[huldah1776]

No, he was Spirit-filled and targeted by satan. Quite the battle.

[hinckley buzzard]

Luther suffered from scrupulosity, a form of OCD that afflicts mainly the religious. He found refuge in “sola fide” because he believed his “works” were never good enough or perfect enough to save him no matter how he tried.

[Albion Wilde]

He would come back from the confessional tormented after spending hours confessing his sins. As soon as he got back to his room, he would remember a sin he had forgotten to confess. This is a neurotic preoccupation with guilt, and so they say Luther was crazy. But was he really?

Sounds more like an autistic savant (Asperger's being no bar to high intellect). Autists are very literal — if he was taught to confess every sin, then every sin it would be, even if it took four hours — and autists are systematizers and systematic in their approach to life. So he enumerated his spiritual conclusions about his questions to the Church. I'm only surprised he stopped at 95 instead of making it a nice round number like 100. But if that wouldn't have been sincere, it would have offended his well-exercised conscience.

[Albion Wilde]

...an infantile obsession with the toilet.

It must have been a cultural thing -- ever read Mozart's letters to his wife? "[Poop] well! [Poop] 'til it bursts!"

[Albion Wilde]

Thanks to him we're supposed to lead a clean and holy life whereas before I could've bought an indulgence and . . . well . . . indulged. He spoiled it for everyone. Plus now I have to read the Bible instead of someone else just telling me what's in there. More bother.

LOLs!

[Albion Wilde]

If history is any guide, every generation has a new start-up religious faith. It's an extremely competitive field, as evidence indicates that only a narrow few survive past the first few years.

Communism turns 100 this year. NeoEarthWorship is only around 40 years old. I'm so tired of both of them.

But the Living Water is still refreshing after two millenia!

[Albion Wilde]

In a hundred years from now will they be asking if Pope Frankie was insane?

Why wait?

[ebb tide]

Was Luther Insane?

Possibly

Was he evil?

Yes

[Albion Wilde]

LCMS ping!

[Luircin]

Remember what Jesus said about loving your enemies?

[ebb tide]

Remember what Jesus said about loving your enemies?

Yes. Next question?

[Luircin]

So why aren’t you obedient to what Jesus said?

I keep asking this and I never get any answer from you other than ‘well, I pray for X!’

So in one breath you pray for someone and in the next breath you curse him.

Choose one or the other, hypocrite.

[ebb tide]

So why aren’t you obedient to what Jesus said?

What in the heck are you talking about?