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To: Djl3668

I think some people does go a little over board trying to prove Mary was no different than any other woman, but it
is the fault of the Catholic church.

Where do the Catholics get the idea they can just make any
claim stick?

Even if a claim is true any one who is honest would realize
they had to show proof.

Even Jesus had to have twelve witnesses as to his resurrection
but the Catholics thinks of them selves as so high and mighty
that they are even higher than the almighty himself.

Any one who really believed in the creator would expect people
to doubt their word if not backed up by scripture.

This is why I believe the Catholic Church is the great mother of harlots spoken of in revelation seventeen
the Protestants do not agree because it would make them her daughter’s.

Yes, I have great respect for the mother of Jesus but if it is
all the same to you I believe the church is the whore.


6 posted on 01/02/2018 4:07:13 AM PST by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain wodsView Replies, please but did not tk`t preach it to me.)
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To: ravenwolf

Another FRper posting a post full of errors.


7 posted on 01/02/2018 4:33:56 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: ravenwolf
This is why I believe the Catholic Church is the great mother of harlots spoken of in revelation seventeen

You can only believe garbage like that if your exegesis is careless and sloppy.

Rev 17 is parallel to Jer 25 and passages in Ezekiel 26 and 27, and Isaiah 47. All of those passages are condemnations uttered against specific cities; Jerusalem in Jeremiah, Tyre in Ezekiel, Babylon in Isaiah.

Revelation 17 itself speaks of the whore as a "great city," not a "church" (although Rev is perfectly happy to utter prophecies against "churches," so it's not like the concept is a foreign one). That is, unless you're really reading the Book of Mormon, which parrots the same passage, but changes "city" to "church".

But Rev itself tells you what "great city" it's talking about: Rev 11:8 tells you that the two witnesses are killed in the streets of the "great city, allegorically called 'Sodom' and 'Egypt' wherein their Lord was crucified".

Understanding that Rev 17 is talking about apostate first-century Jerusalem also explains who the "beast" is. It's Rome under the Caesars, who "comes out of the sea" (to Israelites, a western Gentile kingdom was a "beast" coming from the sea, an eastern one was a beast coming over land), first gives the woman a ride (the cozy relationship of Judaea to Rome under the Herodians), then "hates her" and "burns her with fire". (The Roman conquest of AD 70.)

The symbolism is complete and accurate.

10 posted on 01/02/2018 6:05:21 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: ravenwolf

“This is why I believe the Catholic Church is the great mother of harlots spoken of in revelation seventeen The Protestants do not agree because it would make them her daughters.”

Splain, Lucy. Maybe “Protestant” means something different to you, but I have heard your Revelation interpretation from many non-Catholics.


17 posted on 01/02/2018 7:51:38 AM PST by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Titus 2)
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To: ravenwolf
This is why I believe the Catholic Church is the great mother of harlots spoken of in revelation seventeen the Protestants do not agree because it would make them her daughter’s.

This shouldn't bother the Protestants in the least. Citing 1 Kings, Paul wrote in Romans 11:

2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”? 4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

Just like God reserved an uncorrupted remnant in the corrupted nation of Israel, Protestants would argue He reserved an uncorrupted remnant in the corrupted Church.

Protestants might disagree with that interpretation of Revelation 17 but not for the reason you gave.

21 posted on 01/02/2018 8:46:21 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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