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To: JockoManning

Catholic here. Appreciate the thoughtful questions.

I’m not even close to conversant in the liturgical differences between our branches of Christianity.

With regards to our current Pope, I’m not at all comfortable with his attitude and actions. Of course we’ve had a number of bad situations in my lifetime, much of which were ultimately leadership problems. Humans are terribly fallible, even Popes. That’s my personal opinion, which may not respect church teachings. I pray that God cleans house.


2 posted on 01/04/2018 11:37:09 PM PST by catbertz
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To: catbertz
Thanks for your kind, contributive response.

We, in our household, are quite generous in our attitude toward the humanness in us all--including in any Pope or other religious leader. We have to be--to be Biblical. We all have clay feet; do what we wish we didn't; don't do what we wish we did--like St Paul.

However, when any religious leader over-much believes his own press reports; becomes haughty, authoritarian, prissy, demanding, manipulative ... then we begin to feel like running far away from them.

When a leader begins to sound and act like they presume to be God-ordained to CONTROL the sheep, manipulate the sheep, the public, political spheres etc., then we really feel like running the other way. And plenty of Protestant leaders act that way.

We expect God to clean house. He says in His word that judgment will begin with the House of God. That's a very sobering verse. How and when--remains to be seen--though sometimes it seems like He has begun. We expect all groups, leaders who have spent most of their time building their own human kingdoms vs helping build God's Kingdom--will be removed and possibly worse.

We doubt it could happen too soon.

Is there anything you think Protestants could do regarding the Pope's stuff and his impact on RC's to help support those in the pews standing strong in Biblical New Testament attitudes and behaviors? ... besides praying.

4 posted on 01/05/2018 12:09:28 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: catbertz
We feel even more alarm when religious leaders begin to mangle, water down, rationalize away The Biblical standards, criteria for behavior, Godly demands on those who Love Him, etc.

We aren't talking about those areas where reasonable people can differ on various verses. We are talking about those verses where the meaning is starkly clear and simple. And there are plenty of those that cover the main aspects of our relating to/with God and with each other.

5 posted on 01/05/2018 12:12:12 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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