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To: ealgeone

You do not believe the very words of Jesus!

Too bad that your very firm non-beliefs about direct teachings from Jesus about His Body and Blood in the Eucharist may prevent you from eternal salvation.

Deal with this specific teaching of Jesus, do not try to change the subject.


16 posted on 01/11/2018 9:44:41 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

Thank you!


17 posted on 01/11/2018 9:45:44 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ADSUM
I did deal with it.

But to be clear....

The context of John 6...and context is the key to understanding this passage in relation to the remainder of John and the NT, is about faith/belief in Him.

28Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?”

29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”

30So they said to Him, “What then do You do for a sign, so that we may see, and believe You? What work do You perform?

31“Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, ‘HE GAVE THEM BREAD OUT OF HEAVEN TO EAT.’”

32Jesus then said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven.

33“For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.”

34Then they said to Him, “Lord, always give us this bread.”

35Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst.

36“But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe.

37“All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

38“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

39“This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.

40“For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”

John 6:28- 40 NASB

The Jews didn't understand, much like Roman Catholicism, that we come to Christ through faith.

When Jesus visited with Nicodemus and the woman at the well He did not say a word about having to eat/drink His flesh and blood. Did He lie to them? If we are to believe Roman Catholicism's understanding of the scriptures we'd have to say yes.

However, He did say it was through belief in Him.

Paul, in Romans, did not once say we had to eat/drink His flesh or blood. Did Paul err? No. Because he understood it was about faith in Christ.

24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:24 NASB

What Roman Catholicism would have us believe is this:

Prior to John 6:52-58 and after that Jesus, and the NT writers, all write about the necessity of faith in Christ for salvation....Rome has focused on six verses out of the NT that aren't about faith in Him. Like the unbelieving Jews, including many of His disciples, they did not understand the message.

We appropriate Christ through faith.

19 posted on 01/11/2018 9:58:20 AM PST by ealgeone
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