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Pope Francis Prompts Outrage With Accusations Against Clerical Sex Abuse Victims
One Peter FIve ^ | January 19,, 2018 | Steve Skojec

Posted on 01/20/2018 6:21:55 AM PST by ebb tide

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1 posted on 01/20/2018 6:21:55 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

There really are no words for this clown.


2 posted on 01/20/2018 6:31:01 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: ebb tide

The Manchurian Pope.


3 posted on 01/20/2018 6:35:20 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (SEDITION! Obama DOJ colluded to try overthrow the President!)
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To: ebb tide

Pope Francis Bizarro


4 posted on 01/20/2018 6:36:00 AM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: ebb tide

Bergoglio will face the Almighty and this false pope may actually be unmasked in my life time.


5 posted on 01/20/2018 6:41:43 AM PST by BurrOh (All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ~Orwell)
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To: ebb tide

In a perfect world, this would be sufficient to end this terrible Papacy. Sadly, we don’t live in a perfect world.


6 posted on 01/20/2018 7:09:13 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: Campion; ealgeone; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; ...
In a perfect world, this would be sufficient to end this terrible Papacy.

That's not true because there are MANY churches which are not perfect and yet know how to deal with men in the pastorate who commit such heinous crimes.

Scripture, you know the Bible that Catholics claim their church wrote, tells exactly what the qualifications for being a leader in the church are and what to do with sin in the midst of the church.

The Catholic church has flat out ignored it for thousands of years.

And then they claim to be the only ones to *infallibly* correctly *interpret* it?

They can't be trusted, either to follow it OR correctly interpret it if they can't get something as basic as this right.

QUALIFICATIONS FOR DEACION AND ELDER

1 Timothy 3:1-13 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.

Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for dishonest gain. They must hold the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. And let them also be tested first; then let them serve as deacons if they prove themselves blameless. Their wives likewise must be dignified, not slanderers, but sober-minded, faithful in all things. Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well. For those who serve well as deacons gain a good standing for themselves and also great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:5-16 This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. For an overseer, as God's steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.

1 Corinthians 5:1-13 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.

For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.

Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

That precludes taking communion with someone like that.

2 John 1:4-11 I rejoiced greatly to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as we were commanded by the Father. And now I ask you, dear lady—not as though I were writing you a new commandment, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it. For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch yourselves, so that you may not lose what we have worked for, but may win a full reward. Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

The pope isn't being removed not because we don't live in a perfect world, but because the Catholic church is filled with evil, corruption, and immorality from the top down except possibly for some lay people who the the Catholic church would supposedly ex-communicate for the same unrepentant sin that they church enables within itself.

And you all try to convince the world that YOUR organization is the One True Church established by Christ Himself and that it's protected from error in the matter of faith and morals?

Well if it's true that the Holy Spirit protects the true church from error in faith and morals, then it's patently clear that the Roman Catholic church CANNOT be that church and stuff like this is all the proof one needs.

7 posted on 01/20/2018 10:30:53 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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I’d think that the ONLY ‘true’ church would have in place a system to select better men to lead the flock.


8 posted on 01/20/2018 12:42:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

As I said before, they can’t even be trusted with the bodies of children, but they want us to trust them with our immortal souls?


9 posted on 01/20/2018 1:31:56 PM PST by Luircin
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To: metmom

These people are the reason why I can’t drive my confirmands home from school and they have to walk 4 miles home. These people are the reason I can’t be in the church office because I can’t be alone with anyone in a private area or else I open the door to accusations of sexual assault.


10 posted on 01/20/2018 1:33:14 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

The spirit is with him, the antichrist spirit that is.


11 posted on 01/20/2018 2:38:18 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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I would imagine that ALL large denominations have ‘training’ and ‘insurance’ and ‘procedures’ in place to lessen the opportunities for wrong doing.

I know a few years ago, we cut window holes in our basic panel doors of all our classrooms.

12 posted on 01/21/2018 4:11:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

This is true, though in the LCMS it’s more congregational, so that makes it tough on guys who are out in areas where the people don’t quite understand how difficult things have become. All it takes is one person from out of town with a grudge or a lawsuit fetish, and suddenly the pastor AND the entire congregation are in BIG trouble unless they’ve taken steps to protect themselves.

But these steps are often disliked by smaller congregations because they tend to think that it’s because the pastor is just being standoffish.

One thing that most denominations DON’T do is shuffle guilty parties around and expose them to fresh victims.


13 posted on 01/21/2018 6:05:21 AM PST by Luircin
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To: ebb tide

Boy do I miss Pope St.John Paul 2.


14 posted on 01/21/2018 11:50:01 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: BurrOh

It is happening now.


15 posted on 01/21/2018 11:51:36 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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Boy do I miss Pope St.John Paul 2.

I don't; he's responsible for most of the men elevated to the college of cardinals to later vote for Bergoglio as Pope.

But I pray for him as do I for Pope Francis.

16 posted on 01/21/2018 1:02:57 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Biggirl
My fear is the truth becomes open and clear, yet nothing changes. Bergoglio remains in power.

However, this is my puny fear and I place my faith in the Lord to care for His Holy Catholic Church.
17 posted on 01/21/2018 1:03:57 PM PST by BurrOh (All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ~Orwell)
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To: ebb tide

Considering I am part of Polish heritage I do.


18 posted on 01/21/2018 3:08:50 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: Biggirl

It was JP II who elevated Bergoglio to the college of cardinals.


19 posted on 01/21/2018 4:31:46 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: BurrOh; All; Christian; Elsie; metmom; MHGinTN
God does indeed care for His holy catholic (universal) church.

It is made up of every born again Christian.

It has nothing to do with what denomination a believer claims.

Jesus is the head of His church made up of his followers.

John 6:47

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

King James Version (KJV)

To see that quote in it's Biblical context, click on This Link
20 posted on 01/22/2018 9:44:12 AM PST by Syncro (Facts is facts)
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