Posted on 01/31/2018 5:39:38 PM PST by marshmallow
World Evangelical Alliance explains why Italy, Spain, and Malta leaders shouldn’t fear that global group has fallen for the ‘Francis effect.’
During last year’s 500th anniversary of the Reformation, many groups examined or asked: Is it over?
The loudest “no” has come from the conservative Protestants closest to Rome.
Last month, the national evangelical alliances of Italy, Spain, and Malta—all members of the World Evangelical Alliance (WEA)—wrote an 8-page open letter charging their parent organization with “moving away from its historic position” of holding the line against Catholic and liberal Protestant theology.
“In recent years we have sensed that the leadership of WEA has moved away from the outlined historic position of the Alliance on unity by endorsing a more ‘ecumenical’ attitude,” the three alliances stated in December. “Unity has become a blurred term to refer to any relationship even beyond the principles that have always characterized evangelicals. Leaders have become less cautious in talking about unity with the Catholic Church as such and have tended to bypass the historic boundaries.”
The alliances stated the result has been “undiscerning, wrong-headed, and emotionally-driven statements on Popes and ecumenical activities” that have “caused embarrassment in our constituencies.”
In fact, the national evangelical alliances of Italy, Spain, France, and Poland threw up a red flag to the WEA as early as October 2013, several months after Pope Francis’ election excited many evangelicals worldwide.
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If they would like to take Francis, I’d be happy for them to have him and then we can fall back on one slightly used Pope that is presently in mothballs.
Francis’ visit honoring Luther at Lund was heretical.
It’s very simple you are not an evangelical if you do not believe the fundamentals of the faith and the Roman Catholic is NOT FUNDAMENTAL . To follow them is to deny Christ because Christ died ONE TIME and that sacrifice was perfect .
Roman Catholic mass is an abomination that says screams Jesus sacrifice wasn’t enough.
Two names for the same thing.
I think you have been misinformed. Nothing about the Mass says that Jesus’ sacrifice “wasn’t enough”, because the Mass *is* Jesus’ sacrifice. A sacrifice being offered to the Father in heaven is outside time and therefore eternal, not
an event only in the past.
Still refighting the 30 Years War, I see.
In contrast, Hebrews teaches His sacrifice was a one-time sacrifice for all sin which need not be repeated over and over and over again.
Rome has this completely wrong.
[[I think you have been misinformed. Nothing about the Mass says that Jesus’ sacrifice “wasn’t enough”, because the Mass *is* Jesus’ sacrifice. A sacrifice being offered to the Father in heaven is outside time and therefore eternal, not
an event only in the past.]]
He said “It is finished “
He went the cross once to pay for sin .
He died , was buried , and was resurrected.
He did not die outside of time . He died in a real body in real time , ONCE .
Roman Catholic mass an abomination.
Essentially, you're saying that there's something which God cannot do, aren't you? You're saying God is confined by time, aren't you?
The writer of the Letter to the Hebrews is not talking about the Mass. He's addressing the Jews and drawing a contrast between Christ's sacrifice and Jewish ritual sacrifice of animals.
The Mass is not a "repetition" of Christ's sacrifice. It is the one, same sacrifice made present to us now. At the Last Supper, Christ commanded the Apostles to "do this in memory of me" and the Church is obedient to that command. John's Gospel contains a discourse which emphasizes the reality of Christ's gift to us of His Body and Blood.
And the Last Supper/Communion is not the Mass.
When we have Communion we are remembering His sacrifice on the Cross for our sins. He is not rendered present on the altar as Roman Catholics teach.
It is why He said to "do this in memory of Me."
John's Gospel says otherwise.
Numerous Eucharistic miracles down through the millenia likewise testify to the truth of John's words.
John's Gospel says otherwise.
It does? In Chapter 13?
Numerous Eucharistic miracles down through the millenia likewise testify to the truth of John's words.
I wouldn't be so sure of those.
He is already done it . It is up to individuals to accept what he has already done. No man gets to redo what he has already DONE. IT IS FINISHED and you either his sacrifice or you don’t . If you are trying to make your own sacrifice then you are accepting the one HE made . Bread and wine is a memorial of what he did for us , he doesn’t die over and over again.
Exactly. You get it.
It is the sacrifice of Calvary made present to us here.
No, Chapter 6.
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