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Compared to the Giants of Old, My Lenten Practices Look Pretty Small
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 02-15-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 02/16/2018 8:12:38 AM PST by Salvation

Compared to the Giants of Old, My Lenten Practices Look Pretty Small

February 15, 2018

I was explaining to a new Catholic recently that the color purple (violet) used during Lent symbolizes its penitential quality. Ash Wednesday and Good Friday are days of fasting and abstinence, and all Fridays of Lent are days of abstinence. These remind us that during Lent we are to give special attention to our sins and our need for salvation.

Long gone are the days of a forty-day fast beginning on Ash Wednesday, but we still delight in the carnival of Fat Tuesday! Carnival literally means “farewell to meat” (carnis + vale)). Mardi Gras (Fat Tuesday) was so named because the last of the fat was to be used up before the fast began the next day.

The fasting and abstinence in those days were far more than the token observances common today. In most places, all animal products were strictly forbidden during the entirety of Lent. The rest of the details varied by region. While most areas permitted fish, others permitted fish and fowl. Some prohibited fruit and eggs. In some places (like monasteries) little more than bread was eaten. On Fridays during Lent, some areas observed a complete fast; in others believers ate only a single mean; in most places, however, the practice was to abstain from eating until evening, at which time a small meal without vegetables or alcohol was eaten.

Yes, those were the day of the giants — when fasting and abstinence were real sacrifices.

Our token fast on just two days during Lent really isn’t much of a fast at all: two small meals and one regular meal — is that even a fast at all? And we abstain from meat only on the Fridays of Lent instead of all forty days.

What is most remarkable to me is that the fasts of old were undertaken by men, women, and children who had a lot less to eat than we do. Not only was there less food, but it was far more seasonal and its supply less predictable. Further, famines and food shortages were more a fact of life than they are today. Yet despite all this people were able to fast and abstain for forty days. Further, there were ember days sporadically through the year, when a day-long fast was enjoined. And Advent back then had a more penitential nature than it does today.

Frankly, I doubt that we moderns could pull off the fast of the ancients or even the elders of more recent centuries. Can you imagine the bellyaching (pun intended) if we were obligated to follow the strict norms of even 100 or 200 years ago? I’m sure we would hear that such demands were “unrealistic” or even unhealthy.

Perhaps this is a good illustration of how our abundance enslaves us. The more we get the more we want; the more we want the more we think we can’t live without. We are so easily owned by what we claim to own. We are enslaved by our abundance and experience little freedom to go without.

I look back to the Catholics of 100 years ago and before and to me they seem like giants compared to us. They had so little compared to what we have yet they seem to have been so much freer. They could fast. Though poor, they built grand churches and had large families. They crowded into homes and lived and worked in conditions few of us would tolerate. Sacrifice seemed more “normal” to them. I have not read of any huge outcries from that time that the “mean, nasty Church” imposed fasting and abstinence during Lent and Advent. Nor have I read of complaints about the required fasting from midnight until receiving Holy Communion. Somehow, they accepted these sacrifices and for the most part were able to undertake them. They had a freedom that I think many of us lack.

Imagine the joy when, for a day, the fast was lifted: Feast of the Immaculate Conception, Gaudete Sunday, Feast of the Annunciation, St. Joseph’s Feast day, and Laetare Sunday. For us, the pink candle of Guadete Sunday just makes us wondering, “Rejoice? Over what?” For them these were literally “feast days.”

I admit I am a man of my time. The fasting and abstinence described above seems nearly “impossible” to me. I do undertake certain Lenten practices, but when I look back to these “giants” of old, my sacrifices feel pretty small.


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1 posted on 02/16/2018 8:12:38 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 02/16/2018 8:13:58 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I grew up in those days. Very little meat during Lent. We did get lots of fried perch on Fridays. And that was throughout the year. Dad caught them. It didn’t seem like much of a sacrifice as we were young. We were a lower income family with a garden. I remember lots of spaghetti dinners with just tomato sauce.


3 posted on 02/16/2018 8:19:58 AM PST by MomwithHope (Law and Order and that includes Natural.)
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To: MomwithHope

I remember the fast days were Wednesday and Friday, or else my memory is faulty with age.


4 posted on 02/16/2018 8:29:12 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: MomwithHope

I lived on a farm and we had potatoes and a garden. I remember eating a lot of potatoes and scrambled eggs. No bacon or ham.


5 posted on 02/16/2018 8:47:32 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I did too, but we also had chickens (both layers and fryers), cattle, hogs, etc. as well as plenty of fish, quail, venison, for a change of pace. We never had a lot of cash but we ate well.


6 posted on 02/16/2018 8:56:17 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: Salvation

In the medieval period in England, half the year was meat free. It is why Richard the Third was found to consume far more fish than meat in his life when his teeth were analyzed two years ago. They lived by the liturgical calendar which included marvelous celebrations and austere restrictions. A wonderful life, in many ways.


7 posted on 02/16/2018 8:56:31 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: nobamanomore

Fried chicken was a Sunday treat for us. Or maybe my mom would roast a hen with dressing, and we always had a fruit pie, everything from cherry to peach to strawberry and rhubarb.

Yum!


8 posted on 02/16/2018 9:24:33 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

So much changed with Vatican II, it’s hardly the same church any more as to customs. I liked the idea of fasting before communion, fish on Fridays, Stations of the Cross on Fridays, even hats on ladies at Mass or in church. I think back then you felt part of something apart from “the world” while still being in it.


9 posted on 02/16/2018 11:50:04 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Suring Lent you can have that fish on Fridays!


10 posted on 02/16/2018 5:12:21 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: EDINVA

Actually I eat fish on all Fridays, unless it’s something I can’t avoid like a special dinner.


11 posted on 02/16/2018 5:13:15 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: miss marmelstein

A goos reason to restrict meat in the spring is to give the whelp of all edible creatures time to refresh the herds.


12 posted on 02/16/2018 5:19:20 PM PST by txhurl (The Final Thunderdome: Two Americas enter, One America leaves.)
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To: Salvation

Do you have a Long John Silver’s where you are?


13 posted on 02/16/2018 5:20:24 PM PST by txhurl (The Final Thunderdome: Two Americas enter, One America leaves.)
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To: MomwithHope; Salvation

In the Orthodox Church we fast through all of Great Lent which this year begins on this coming Sunday evening with Forgiveness Vespers, and continues until the “Feast of feast”—Pascha—celebrated this year on April 8.

During the Great Fast we abstain from all red meat, all poultry, all fish with a backbone (except on the Feast of the Annunciation and Palm Sunday), all eggs, milk, cheese, and dairy. Every day—Sundays included.

We began to prepare our bodies for the Fast this week, called “Cheesefare” by abstaining from all meat, poultry, and fish.

Also important to note that this intense fasting is accompanied by intense prayer. In addition to the usual Saturday Vespers and Sunday Matins and Divine Liturgy we have Great Compline every Monday evening, the PreSanctified Divine Liturgy every Wednesday evening, and the Salutations to the Theotokos every Friday evening.

No wonder one of the hymns for Forgivness Vespers begins “come let us enter into the arena to strive against the passions”


14 posted on 02/16/2018 5:41:50 PM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: lightman

Good grief, what do you eat?

Bread has some of those ingredients, so can you even eat bread?


15 posted on 02/16/2018 7:55:15 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: lightman

That’s pretty amazing. I suppose lamb isn’t included? The rest of the diet would be vegetables? Curious about what fish doesn’t have a backbone? This is fascinating to me. Not sure I could follow this fast for more than a day, but amazing that it’s done. Blessings to you.


16 posted on 02/16/2018 8:10:55 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Salvation; EDINVA

Actually we eat very well: My Priest calls this a return to the diet of the Garden of Eden before the Fall; and says that Lenten Fasting expresses our yearning to return to that Paradise.

Practically: Lots of fruits and vegetables. Protein comes from lentils, beans, and other legumes. Lentil soup, meatless chili, butternut squash vegetable soup, Maryland style crab soup.

On Wednesdays after the Presanctified Divine Liturgy we have a Lenten covered dish with an abundance of really tasty fare, all without meat, eggs, or dairy.

As to the “backbone” question: Fish with a backbone, no. Shrimp, crabs, clams, muscles, squid crayfish, lobster—all yes.

Lamb—not until Pascha!


17 posted on 02/16/2018 9:22:58 PM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: EDINVA; Salvation

Many fine dishes in the “Lenten Recipes” section here:

http://www.stlukeorthodox.com/html/cookbook.cfm


18 posted on 02/16/2018 9:27:19 PM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: Salvation

Used to work with a guy who gave up cheese and watermelon every year for Lent. He couldn’d stand either one.


19 posted on 02/16/2018 9:35:06 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: lightman

Those recipes all have meat, cheese and other prohibited food stuffs.


20 posted on 02/16/2018 10:40:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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