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Lutheran seminary president ousted in controversy over past "conversion therapy" work
PennLive.com ^ | 14 March A.D. 2018 | Charles Thompson

Posted on 03/15/2018 10:06:44 AM PDT by lightman

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To: fwdude

I know that the libs don’t want people going straight but if the person himself wants to, it’s HIS choice to go for help with it and nobody has a right to tell him no, he can’t have it.


21 posted on 03/15/2018 1:07:41 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

We should pray daily for the remnant that holds to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Times will only get tougher until He comes for His Bride


22 posted on 03/15/2018 1:25:08 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: lightman

....How can our LCMS church hire her?


23 posted on 03/15/2018 1:51:50 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: metmom

Exactly. It is no one’s business.

I sure wish all the homos would actually HOLD to their constant public protestations that it’s nobody’s business.


24 posted on 03/15/2018 2:00:04 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

If you want your LCMS chyrchvti hire a female reverend you don’t know much about the LCMS


25 posted on 03/15/2018 2:11:39 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD

Church to hire Big fingers little keys


26 posted on 03/15/2018 2:12:22 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD

I do know. Frankly, I don’t much care if she was putting homos right.

And frankly, I’m a lot more conservative than many of these male pastors.


27 posted on 03/15/2018 4:45:31 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

That may be but there is no place for female clergy in the LCMS. If you want female clergy feel free to join the ELCA or any of the recent splinter groups that have sprung up. Women can do good things but that does not mean they should be clergy. If you were as conservative as you say you would support that.


28 posted on 03/15/2018 5:05:33 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: lightman
" We affirm that all points of view are valid and meaningful, and we ask that you recognize on good faith that we did our best to take all into full account as we endeavored to find the best answer for ULS."

Oh, spare us. Every point of view but the Lord's, in His Word.

29 posted on 03/15/2018 5:35:51 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: fwdude
I thought that the church’s entire mission was “conversion therapy,” conversion from sinner to saint, from darkness to light, from separation to fellowship, from bondage to freedom, from death to life.

Well said. Indeed, "death to self."

30 posted on 03/15/2018 5:38:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
....How can our LCMS church hire her?

Why would you want her? She DENOUNCED her own work with helping gays understand God's plan, and she blamed it on her "fundamentalist upbringing." What fundamentals were those -- the precepts of the Bible?

31 posted on 03/15/2018 5:44:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: Mom MD

Geesh. All I did was say I’d hire her (based on OLD info no longer relevent). It was a joke.

I’ve been a member of LCMS for a while now. I can’t stomach what goes on at ELCA. Only problem is we’re starting to get some creep with our younger pastors.

If you REALLY want conservative, you can join LCWS.


32 posted on 03/15/2018 5:55:41 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Repeat of above:

Geesh. All I did was say I’d hire her (based on 1 sentence which I am aware is OLD info no longer relevent). It was a joke.


33 posted on 03/15/2018 5:56:43 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

If the LCMS does not hold the line the WELS is my next stop. Not all the young pastors are creeping. My son will graduate and be ordained this spring. He and his classmates give me hope the LCMS will stay faithful. Sorry if you think I overreacted but I cannot stand the thought of the ELCA rot infecting the LCMS.


34 posted on 03/15/2018 5:59:23 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I don’t believe humor is permitted on religion threads.


35 posted on 03/15/2018 5:59:36 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mom MD

There are still other Lutheran options.
The church I attend is LCMC.
It worked well for ‘us’ as castouts from a ELCA church.

http://www.lcmc.net/statement-of-faith/231


36 posted on 03/15/2018 6:43:46 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: right way right

My brothers church joined the LCMC they are a little loose for me and still
allow female clergy. It may not be the case for your church but I have found the LCMC has very loose structure and is composed of a lot of churches fleeing the outright apostasy of the ELCA but were not conservative enough to join the LCMS. The female clergy is a deal breaker for me.


37 posted on 03/15/2018 6:58:49 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD

Good characterization of the LCMC.

I would portray the left-to-right Lutheran spectrum like this:

ELCA - LCMC - NALC - LCMS - WELS

NALC as “centrist” because of stronger episcopal oversite and accountability.


38 posted on 03/15/2018 7:14:37 PM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: lightman

Lifelong Lutheran. I have lived through seminex, the ALC and LCA joining to form the ELCA and run off the rails. I am fortunate enough to have a son who will be ordained in the LCMS this spring as was my grandfather. The LCMS is a good place to be, if they succumb to the liberal rot then the only place left for me will be the WELS. I pray the LCMS stands strong


39 posted on 03/15/2018 7:18:38 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: lightman

“It has been rejected by groups including the American Psychological Association and the American Medical Association as not only ineffective, but also psychologically harmful.”

APA, AMA: heathen, leftist monopolistic medieval-style guilds. Yeah, they have no ax to grind. (They make denominations look tame when it comes to punishing heretics.)


40 posted on 03/15/2018 7:24:49 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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