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There’s another way of looking at predestination besides the usual *God picking some to save and the rest to send to hell.

Scripture tells us that those God foreknew, He predestined to be saved.

IOW, He knew before hand who would accept His gift of salvation and then determined that those whoso responded would be given eternal life and He guaranteed it by predestining them to be saved (not go to hell) as opposed to choosing by some fathomless criteria, to save some and damn the rest.

I hope that explained it because it’s another meaning to those very same words and it’s difficult to say*He predestined some to be saved* without people thinking that it means picking and choosing for people instead of giving them the choice, which Scripture is pretty clear he does.


31 posted on 04/11/2018 4:56:11 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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There’s another way of looking at predestination besides the usual *God picking some to save and the rest to send to hell. Scripture tells us that those God foreknew, He predestined to be saved. IOW, He knew before hand who would accept His gift of salvation and then determined that those whoso responded would be given eternal life and He guaranteed it by predestining them to be saved (not go to hell) as opposed to choosing by some fathomless criteria, to save some and damn the rest. I hope that explained it because it’s another meaning to those very same words and it’s difficult to say*He predestined some to be saved* without people thinking that it means picking and choosing for people instead of giving them the choice, which Scripture is pretty clear he does.

The 'elect', 'chosen', or 'saints' stood against the devil when he rebelled. They are those 'predestined' before the foundation of the world. (Ephesians 1:4) (World means 'age', that Peter describes in IIPeter 3.) First place the results of this rebellion is described is Genesis 1:2. The 'elect' have already demonstrated their love and loyalty to the Creator.

The devil and his disciples, called 'sons of God', in Genesis 6, fallen angels in Jude are the only entities to date have been judged to death. (Isaiah 14:12- and Ezekiel 28:12- describe in detail the sin and judgment Lucifer has already received.)

Hebrews 2:14 14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Psalms 22 indicates that those that do not believe in God/ Christ were 'planted' to play a particular role to demonstrate the truth of the Word... However, there is no place that states that high priest that made sure Christ was crucified has been judged to hell. Pharaoh is another such planting.. I suspect that Cain was another planting of the negative role. But again even though we might think some have been condemned to 'hell', it is none of our business, because it is between each individual and the Creator of their soul, to render that final judgment.

Nobody goes unwillingly or in ignorance to the lake of fire... 'hell' and only God will make that judgment.

39 posted on 04/11/2018 7:07:05 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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