Posted on 04/22/2018 7:06:06 AM PDT by marshmallow
LIVERPOOL, England, April 20, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – A nurse who worked at Alder Hey children’s hospital until this month has published on social media what he says is a scan of Alfie Evans’ brain along with the message that the baby “deserves” to die.
“Up, Alfie’s brain. Down, same age healthy boy,” the nurse wrote about the brain scans of two children that he posted to Facebook this week.
“Sad reality, but IT’S THE REALITY. He deserves to go, he has had enough,” states the message from the nurse who described himself online as a “PICU Staff Nurse at Alder Hey Children’s Hospital and Charity.” A publication ban set by U.K. judges forbids LifeSiteNews from publishing the names and photographs of staff involved in Alfie Evans’ care.
The nurse's post comes a few days after judges set Monday, April 23rd, as the date for the removal of Alfie's ventilation, which will likely cause his death.
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humans have the ability to foresee what is coming...and humans see terrible pain, and because they know "what is coming" it increases pain and anxiety....understandably people want to know that they will have no terrible, horrible pain as they pass on.
thus, the many drugs....
about Hospice...they do encourage to keep taking more and more drugs...
if you're looking for a glimmer of hope, Hospice is not the way...
I think people should have hope...
I think the issue is who decides? That is a lot of power. I have a problem with who decides, especially if they block possible diagnosis/treatment by other medical people.
I personally knew of a little girl in a coma from brain injury and her parents were told it was time to let her go. The parents instead had her transferred to a neurological institute in another state and she ended up recovering.
I have a real problem when the people with the power refuse to let patients be taken elsewhere for other possible treatment.
If I were told a loved one was brain dead and needed to be removed from life support, I would sure want to be free to take that person for another evaluation, other possible treatment. I am very much against them legally keeping family from seeking other answers.
I think you are taking those statements too literally. When a cancer patient is dying, it is very painful. The doctors provide pain medication to control the pain. Sometimes , those doses can cause respiratory depression and death. The only other alternative is to let patients suffer. No one wants to do that, but the treatment for pain can cause death. No one is deliberately euthanizing hospice patients.
There are all sorts of stories about life ‘and’ death of patients...but generally we don’t here much of those who permitted their loved one to die naturally, it only seems those fighting this get the headlines. So I don’t base my opinions on any of them.
Frankly it’s nobodies business but the families..and I have a serious problem with those who make it public.
my brothers body swelled to the point of not recognizing him because his wife refused to let him go....and he suffered greatly for that..... On the other hand my mothers body had simply started shutting down so there was no question it was time.
But it cannot go without being said that parents of young babies or children have the most difficult time of letting go when the time comes or even perhaps recognizing it. ..and the reasons are numerous....
I don't like to discuss who's right or wrong in these cases...nor if or not a patient could or should be moved to another place. These are troublesome questions that are not easily put in any category....
That’s one nurse who should never be allowed anywhere around patients. Yank her license and put her on the never hire list for any care facility.
I agree normally it should be family business. Those I see in public are those that are not being allowed to take their loved ones somewhere else, for evaluation and possibly treatment. I do not agree with the idea that parents cannot take their child to another place for treatment. If I were a parent in that situation I would want to bring attention to that issue, and hope that would force changes.
“No one is deliberately euthanizing hospice patients.”
I’ve been doing hospice work for over twenty years and have been around a lot of different groups and patients. Sorry to say, they are deliberately euthanizing hospice patients.
It is the norm to increase the morphine or Oxy to a level where they feel no pain, and lose much consciousness and quality of life in the process. It is a balancing act to find that fine line between no pain and clarity of mind. I try to err on the low side, most err on the high dose side.
Yes, I have worked with many types of pain, including bone cancer. Been with quite a few while they passed on over the years. There is much more to it than most realize.
I would suggest that those who understand this prepare now for an unseen event...the laws of society are more and more to ‘control’ the populations. It’s not going to get any better and fruitless to think otherwise.
We can cry and scream about our rights, be it over our children or whatever. But that’s just not reality. We have long passed ‘rights’ and ‘fairness’ apart from written words with no meaning or application.
I saw and heard enough on that floor to understand the care, the pain and the amazing work of great nurses.....no doubt though there are some otherwise.
“the amazing work of great nurses.”
Yes, there are many. And Dr’s.
Sorry, but I disagree. If a patient is in so much pain that they require high doses of pain medication which may cause death due to respiratory depression, then that is not euthanasia. No medical personnel is going to risk their license to do euthanasia.
Are you an RN , MD, NP or PA?
There are high dosed patients because of pain.
There are also patients who are placed on morphine for no good reason and die within hours because of intentionally suppressed respirations.
Have worked with families of patients who were essentially euthanized by medical staff within hours of ER admission.
Do not ever let your family go to the hospital or stay at the hospital by themselves.
Respiration depression induced by deliberate removal from a ventilator or withdrawal of all hydration and nutrition is flat out murder; aka euthanasia.
Drowning victims and carbon monoxide poisoning victims all given ventilation by responsible, moral medical professionals.
Are you an RN , MD, NP or PA?
I'm none of the above. But please note that most all "legalized" abortionists are one of the above. Degrees have no upper hand on morality or sanctity.
It has been my experience that through their caring, compassion and empathy, health care workers project more pain on to patients than the patients are actually experiencing.
Yes, they do risk their licenses.
I’ve done demonstrations in workshops on the perception of pain. One in particular I was presenting to a group of nurses and purposely reached into a double spring coyote trap with my hand, continuing to present for fifteen minutes until two men removed it. Not once did I experience pain during the demonstration while the participants were perceiving me experiencing pain.
In death, the higher consciousness one experiences does not allow the perception of pain. They are at two different frequencies. This is also how pain is blocked with placebos and in hypnosis.
At a conference I spoke at length with an LSD researcher from the 1960’s. They had difficulty identifying which subjects would have bad trips, so they developed a prescreening test by administering high levels of CO2 causing the feeling of suffocation. Those with negative experiences with the CO2 were more likely to experience bad trips.
My own research deals with developmental perceptual programming of the perception of reality. People fearing pain experience more pain.
“Do not ever let your family go to the hospital or stay at the hospital by themselves.”
Very good advice.
Since you are not medically trained, your opinion is just that, your opinion. Since you have never physically taken care of a patient with terminal cancer, and had to help them with ADLs and hear their complaints of pain, you have no idea how bad it can be.
I have increased morphine doses on dying patients. I would rather them be comfortable than in pain.
Since you don’t like hospitals and consider us murderers, I sugggest you avoid hospitals if you have chest pain , cannot breathe, or break a bone. Heal yourself.
I guess you have not read my previous posts....
I am a neuroscientist and my wife is an MD with 30+ years on the faculty of a internationally recognized school of medicine. We’ve worked together to care for hospice patients, several who have passed due to cancer, in our home. (For family and friends out of Love, never for payment) My family is a medically focused family with quite a few MD’s of various specialties. It really helps in emergency situations.
I started as a hospice volunteer in the early 1990’s and have worked with many different hospice organizations over the years due to my relocation. I’ve bathed, changed soiled linens and administered medications for more than my share of patients. 24/7 care is a lot different than a nursing shift where you get to leave for a spell to relax.
I also work to assist terminally ill people to understand and deal with the process of dying, having fully experienced it myself prior to returning to my physical body. Very few medical professionals have viewed the death process from the other side after experiencing it first hand. It adds a whole new perspective.
Being with someone when they die is a very special unique experience, especially for me as an extreme empath. I get to experience the Divine Love that encompasses them at the moment of death and afterward. When their eyes open wide and they yell out WOW in joy just prior to death, I see and feel the same things as they do. The experience is beyond words to describe and no amount of money would convince me to forgo it.
It is amazing when someone is in extreme pain, even after you have administered the maximum dosage of Oxy, and the pain is only diminished by praying with them. I have found that prayer is just as good or better than opiates for a dying person. This is not just about assisting a soul to leave the physical body, but making sure that fear, anger, guilt and pain are diminished as the person goes toward the blissful Light of Home. A soul will loosen its grip on the physical body and begin to transcend beyond the pain. With drugs, I’ve observed the soul being stuck in the dead body. (This also happens in abortions.) Just my experiences and observations.
The opinions of those medically trained are still just their opinions. I’ve gone head to head with many physicians over the years, but always with respect, facts and evidence based research. I admire and recognize their expertise, always asking them questions relating to their observations, diagnosis and treatment recommendations. For the most part, they are fabulous.
I’ve observed the nursing homes administering Risperidone to patients for the benefit of sedation side effect to decrease staffing when it is black boxed for the elderly in the PDR. I was personally involved as a consultant in the court cases where J & J paid billions of dollars for promoting it off label.
Drugs diminish a person’s ability to raise the frequency of their consciousness in prayer, to rise above the discomfort. They can pray for hours and there is no change as they are like a radio with the tuning knob missing, unable to change channels. In the process of dying, the soul raises its frequency as it transcends the physical finding its way home.
A 97 year old woman was crying and I asked her what was wrong. She replied, “I’m afraid I’m going to hell.” I spent the next three weeks with her, praying and observing the Light of the Holy Spirit working to cleanse her soul and body while she radiated heat like a furnace. This continued for three weeks(during this time she consumed no food and the last week was no food or liquids) until she died. I told the hospice nurse not to make a special trip that evening as I would prepare the body and she could just stop the next day during normal hours. Surprisingly, over twelve hours after the death when the nurse arrived, there was zero rigor mortis. Her body was as limp as a rag doll. That’s how much her body and soul were cleansed by the Holy Spirit.
Death is a spiritual experience that happens when medicine fails. Death should not be a medical experience!
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