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To: ealgeone
Would a Roman Catholic priest allow communion to a person on their death bed without benefit of baptism if requested?

Since Baptism is needed to receive Holy Communion, the priest would, with the person's permission, baptize him first. If you have some water handy, it can be done in literally 4 seconds (I just timed myself). He could receive all the Last Rites (Baptism, Anointing, and Communion --- this is called "Viaticum") right there on his deathbed.

Need they believe that "the cup of blessing which we bless, is the communion of the blood of Christ?"... If you mean the literal blood of Christ...no. For that is not what the NT teaches.

My NT keeps saying "is" to mean "is." This "is" My Body. This "is" My Blood. I "am" the living bread. The bread that I give "is" my flesh for the life of the world. My flesh "is" true food and My Blood "is" read drink.

If I have misinterpreted "is" to mean "is", then the Apostle Paul makes the same mistake. He recalls that Jesus said This "is" my body, and then adds that anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.

So, if it depends on what "is" is, what does "is" mean in your NT?

If the "Rainbow Sash" people came to your church --- As probably in your church, each person has to search their heart.

In my Church, persons "obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion." [Canon 915]. Each of those adjectives counts.

In the "Rainbow Sash" case I referred to, the sash itself made it "manifest" (outwardly shown) that they were affirming sodomy ("grave sin"). Plus, they were "obstinately persevering": they were warned that the rainbow sashes twisted Holy Cmmunion into a kind of vehicle for protest, and that they could only receive if they removed the sashes.

99.9% of the time, it is indeed left for the person approaching Holy Communion to examine their own conscience. As I mentioned before, I've only heard of people being turned away from Communion twice in my whole life, and both times it involved people who actually told the priest they wanted to receive in order to make a point about affirming Gay Wonderfulness.

Could professed Christians wearing an outward sign proclaiming Christian Gay Wonderfulness receive in your church?

My little ones wanted to participate in communion prior to their salvation. I told them they could not until they were saved.

Thanks for that answer, it's interesting. God bless your kids. In the Western Church, Communion is usually delayed until the Age of Reason (around 7) when the children can distinguish that what they are receiving is the real Body and Blood of Christ. It used to be older, but about 100 years ago, Pope Pius X lowered the age from 12 to 7.

In the Eastern Church (e.g. Byzantine Greek Catholics), equally validly, infants and tiny toddlers are brought up to receive Communion.

"However, I have been to two RC weddings. When it came time to approach for the Eucharist, I declined."

You did well. Thank you. I would show my sincere respect by doing the same in your church.

32 posted on 04/23/2018 5:11:01 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

**He could receive all the Last Rites (Baptism, Anointing, and Communion -— this is called “Viaticum”) right there on his deathbed.**

And my priest has performed another sacrament at the bedside of someone dying — marriage.

If the dying is validly baptized then they can partake of the sacrament of Penance/Reconciliation.


33 posted on 04/23/2018 5:17:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>Would a Roman Catholic priest allow communion to a person on their death bed without benefit of baptism if requested?<<

Since Baptism is needed to receive Holy Communion, the priest would, with the person's permission, baptize him first. If you have some water handy, it can be done in literally 4 seconds (I just timed myself). He could receive all the Last Rites (Baptism, Anointing, and Communion --- this is called "Viaticum") right there on his deathbed.

Except that is not NT baptism.

But let's continue to play....there's no water available.

My NT keeps saying "is" to mean "is." This "is" My Body. This "is" My Blood. I "am" the living bread. The bread that I give "is" my flesh for the life of the world. My flesh "is" true food and My Blood "is" read drink.

If I have misinterpreted "is" to mean "is", then the Apostle Paul makes the same mistake. He recalls that Jesus said This "is" my body, and then adds that anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.

So, if it depends on what "is" is, what does "is" mean in your NT?

No. If one reads the passage in context of John 6, and John 6 in the context of the overall book of John and the New Testament, one does not find a literal understanding of the passages in question.

Paul tells us why we have the Lord's Supper.

23For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

25In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 NASB

In my Church, persons "obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion." [Canon 915]. Each of those adjectives counts.

Rome is then being a little duplicitous then. They allow so many to partake without objection.

Does your priest go through a list of questions before each person is allowed the Eucharist?

I didn't think so.

Further, how do you know the priest you're receiving the Eucharist from is in "good standing"? Are their motives pure? Are they in sin in some capacity?

36 posted on 04/23/2018 5:33:09 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Literary Devices

https://literarydevices.net/metaphor/

Metaphor
Definition of Metaphor

Metaphor is a figure of speech that makes an implicit, implied, or hidden comparison between two things that are unrelated, but which share some common characteristics. In other words, a resemblance of two contradictory or different objects is made based on a single or some common characteristics.

In simple English, when you portray a person, place, thing, or an action as being something else, even though it is not actually that “something else,” you are speaking metaphorically. For example, the phrase, “My brother is the black sheep of the family,” is a metaphor because he is not a sheep, nor is he black. However, we can use this comparison to describe an association of a black sheep with that person. A black sheep is an unusual animal, which typically stays away from the herd, and the person being described shares similar characteristics.

Furthermore, a metaphor develops a comparison that is different from a simile, in that we do not use “like” or “as” to develop a comparison in a metaphor. It actually makes an implicit or hidden comparison and not an explicit one.
Common Speech Examples of Metaphors

Most of us think of a metaphor as a device used in songs or poems only, and that it has nothing to do with our everyday life. In fact, all of us in our routine life speak, write, and think in metaphors. We cannot avoid them. Metaphors are sometimes constructed through our common language, and they are called “conventional metaphors.”

For instance, calling a person a “night owl,” or an “early bird,” or saying “life is a journey,” are common examples of metaphors heard and understood by most of us. Below are some more conventional metaphors we often hear in our daily lives:

My brother was boiling mad. (This implies he was too angry.)
The assignment was a breeze. (This implies that the assignment was not difficult.)
It is going to be clear skies from now on. (This implies that clear skies are not a threat and life is going to be without hardships)
The skies of his future began to darken. (Darkness is a threat; therefore, this implies that the coming times are going to be hard for him.)
Her voice is music to his ears. (This implies that her voice makes him feel happy)
He saw the soul of dust when passing through the dust storm.
Chaos is the breeding ground of order.
War is the mother of all battles.
Her dance is a great poem.
A new road to freedom passes through this valley of death.
My conscience is my barometer.
His white face shows his concern.
His kisses are like roses.
He married her to have a trophy wife.
Laughter is the best medicine.
Words are daggers when spoken in anger.
His words are pearls of wisdom.


51 posted on 04/23/2018 6:51:24 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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