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To: boatbums
Utopia then is either an ideal place of perfection or an ideal place that can never possibly exist.

Absolutely true, and also why I'm not a humanist. Even if I were an atheist, I would reject utopianist nonsense.

58 posted on 05/07/2018 1:32:26 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: pcottraux
Absolutely true, and also why I'm not a humanist. Even if I were an atheist, I would reject utopianist nonsense.

Do you think perhaps the Utopian fantasy is some kind of innate longing for a return to Eden? I mean, a Utopia without God IS impossible just as the idea that humans are capable of creating such a thing knowing the propensity we have naturally towards depravity. If we could ever create such a place, it wouldn't take long for the worst among us to destroy it.

70 posted on 05/07/2018 3:45:23 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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