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1 posted on 05/17/2018 10:07:42 AM PDT by ebb tide
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Acts 8:23 ESV / 2 helpful votes
For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity.”

John 8:44 ESV / 2 helpful votes
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 ESV / 2 helpful votes
And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

Romans 1:28 ESV / 2 helpful votes
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done

Proverbs 3:7 ESV / 3 helpful votes
Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil.

2 Peter 2:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes
And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed.

1 Peter 3:12 ESV / 2 helpful votes
For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are open to their prayer. But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”

James 4:7 ESV / 2 helpful votes
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

is 5-20

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

2timothy3

1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

John 3:19 ESV

And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

Matthew 15:19 ESV / 6 helpful votes
For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.

Romans 12:21 ESV / 5 helpful votes
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

3 John 1:11 ESV / 4 helpful votes
Beloved, do not imitate evil but imitate good. Whoever does good is from God; whoever does evil has not seen God.

2 Peter 2:10 ESV / 4 helpful votes
And especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority. Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones,

Matthew 24:12 ESV / 4 helpful votes
And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 ESV / 3 helpful votes
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared,

1 Thessalonians 5:22 ESV / 3 helpful votes
Abstain from every form of evil.

Ephesians 6:13 ESV / 3 helpful votes
Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.

Luke 6:35 ESV / 3 helpful votes
But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.

Matthew 6:13 ESV / 3 helpful votes
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Revelation 12:9 ESV / 2 helpful votes
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world

Jude 1:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes
But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively.

1 John 3:8 ESV / 2 helpful votes
Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

2 Peter 2:1 ESV / 2 helpful votes
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 ESV / 2 helpful votes
But test everything; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil.


2 posted on 05/17/2018 10:37:42 AM PDT by Bob434
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Man, you are on a roll today!


3 posted on 05/17/2018 10:39:13 AM PDT by Shark24
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“Moreover, elementary rules of magisterial interpretation tell us that a teaching given with a greater level of authority, no matter how many decades or centuries old it may be, carries more weight than a recent teaching given with a lower level of authority. Level of authority is gauged by the type of document in which, or the occasion on which, it is issued, the verbal formula employed, and other such signs.”

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A desperate but futile attempt to rescue the RCC from Popes and Magisteriums that have been slowly (yet inexorably) cutting the doctrinal ties to Orthodoxy for decades. We were told that the RCC was built upon Petrine authority and the orthodoxy that would flow from it. We were told that “the gates of Hell would not prevail against it.” And yet...the gates of Hell have prevailed against it for decades. So, what are we to think? Do these lines in Mathew really mean that the Christian Community must place so much of their trust in the hierarchy (past and present) of the RCC?


4 posted on 05/17/2018 11:07:55 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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There's nothing new under the sun. Isaiah 14 speaks to pride and the self-centered person. When Jesus returns, man will clearly understand the price of rebelling against and rejecting the Lord's Christ.

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. ...Psalm 2:1-12

5 posted on 05/17/2018 11:52:10 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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This is what killed tonality in classical music: the conscious preference for ugliness over beauty.

Schoenberg was a spiritual soulless-mate of Nietzsche.


8 posted on 05/17/2018 5:13:47 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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As the atrocity of abortion demonstrates, Nietzsche’s view has prevailed in the secular society of the West. But has not a subtler form of this “transvaluation of all values” invaded Christianity as well—including the Catholic Church, which had seemed for so many centuries to be adamantly opposed to any compromise with modernity and its atheistic spirit?

What a sick, sad joke Catholic "changelessness" is! The author, like every other so-called "conservative" Catholic, obviously still wants to ignore the elephant in the room that led to all of this: the rampant rationalism and naturalism that led to the reduction of whole books of the Bible to "primitive mythology," of which historical criticism and evolutionism are the two prime examples.

I have read about many of the so-called "conservative" Catholic heroes (such as Sheen, Benedict XVI, JPII, etc.) and while they may have fulminated loudly about Freud and Nietzsche and other such, they never quite make it to Wellhausen and Darwin. In fact, Catholics/Orthodox now consider these two philosophies as dogmatically mandatory to prove they aren't "Protestant." Even as both philosophies were started by liberal Protestants!

Bellarmine's insistence that the sun revolves around the earth to protect the literal teaching of the Bible has been assigned to an Orwellian memory hole. Now it's "that's those Fundies; we've never had a problem with such-and-such." And while they haven't had a problem with it for a very very long time now, the idea that they've never had a problem with it is a d@mnable lie.

Catholics/Orthodox/Myophosites/Nestorians now actually seem to be in a race as to which can claim the most ancient opening to evolution and higher criticism (or to the current mania that "there's nothing wrong with us"). Entire swaths of history have been eliminated to "prove" that they were always progressive and futuristic and open to naturalistic theories. Now even the so-called "conservatives," even the ones who want to restore the high middle ages, are Darwinists and higher critics. They want the middle ages with evolution.

This being the case, the claim of current "conservative" Catholics that their church has been the most "reactionary" and resistant to change of all other forces in the world is simply a sad, sick joke. They may have masses of simple peasants among their members, but all their spokesmen are intellectuals who hate and detest American-style Fundamentalist Protestantism over all other things . . . including abortion and homosexuality.

And as for being "anti-Protestant," I note that this "anti-Protestantism" never seems to apply to liberal Protestants. Only Fundamentalists are criticized for "rejecting the ancient oral interpretive tradition." As if liberal Protestants didn't do the same thing! In fact, liturgicals and liberal Protestants come together in ecumenism primarily to attack "Protestant Fundamentalism."

And it is Fundamentalist Protestants, btw, who are more opposed to "ecumenism" than any other movement in chrstendom (except maybe the J-- Witnesses). If the ancient churches are so "changeless" and conservative, why have they been involved in ecumania almost from the beginning? And why to they attack Fundamentalists for believing that there can only be one true religion? After all, the ancient churches certainly don't think membership in any of them is required, which is why they engage in absolutely no missionary activity whatsoever and depend on endogamous sexual reproduction to survive(not to mention their loud attacks on FP's precisely for being missionary).

The "indefectable church" has defected. That is obvious for anyone with eyes to see. The thing is, all the so-called "conservatives," who want to be highly intellectual reactionaries while regarding simple people as hateful and too stupid to even be proselytized, are all part of the problem. And it begins with the two philosophies neither of them wants to jettison. Because they can't bring themselves to have anything in common with "those stupid people."

All the other ancient churches will fall as well, just like dominoes. They've all been very liberal for a long time. And they all absolutely refuse to get rid of the two root causes of "modernism" in their religion.

9 posted on 05/17/2018 5:18:57 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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