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German bishop criticizes methods used to oppose Eucharistic hospitality
La Croix ^ | May 17, 2018 | Christa Pongratz-Lippitt

Posted on 05/17/2018 3:32:37 PM PDT by ebb tide

A German bishop has criticized a small minority in his nation’s episcopal conference for questioning the orthodoxy of the vast majority of bishops who favor a pastoral plan to allow non-Catholic spouses in inter-confessional marriages to receive the Eucharist at Mass.

“We must get out of this way of argumentation which uses insinuation and suspicion and acts as if the position of the majority is out of line with church teaching,” said Bishop Peter Kohlgraf of Mainz.

“I feel personally affected when, in their letter to Rome, the seven bishops warn that my vote and that of the majority of my fellow bishops is endangering the deposit of the faith and church unity,” he said in an interview published May 12 in the Kölner Stadtanzeiger.

The 51-year-old Kohlgraf, who just last year succeeded Cardinal Karl Lehmann as bishop of Mainz and is Germany’s youngest bishop, said he did not believe Pope Francis saw this as a danger either.

He said that, on the contrary, Francis praised the German bishops’ ecumenical commitment and signaled how they could proceed. He said the pope has often pointed out that ecumenism is not a case of black or white or yes or no.

Bishop Kohlgraf said Francis now expects the bishops to reach a consensus on Eucharistic hospitality that is “as unanimous as possible.”

But he emphasized that this does not mean fully unanimous. He said it was his understanding, however, that dealing with this issue was within the competence of the German bishops.

Their task now, he said, was to explain their interpretation of shared communion to those mixed marriage couples who still had a problem with receiving the Catholic Eucharist or had already made up their own minds.

“Let’s be honest. People vote with their feet. And while I’m the last person to say, ‘OK, we must follow the crowd,’ conversely I ask myself if we really think we must protect God by deciding who may go to communion and who may not?” the bishop said.

Asked what would happen if the bishops could not agree on the communion handout, Kohlgraf said in that case every bishop would be free to allow Eucharistic hospitality in his diocese or not.

“But I do wonder what would happen if the ruling in Cologne were different to the one in Aachen. I’m quite sure that that would further increase incomprehension and resentment among the faithful. In fact I can positively hear people saying ‘we can’t take what the bishops say seriously any longer,’” he said. 

Cardinal Reinhard Marx, who is president of the German bishops’ conference, said on May 13 that he would be informing his fellow bishops extensively “in the next few days” on what he and a small delegation of German bishops discussed with Vatican officials in Rome. 

The cardinal told the German Catholic news agency KNA that he hoped the bishops could re-start their discussions on the issue next month when the episcopal conference’s permanent council meets.

He said he was confident that a “consensual” agreement would be found. However, he also added this caveat: “We want to find as great a consensus as possible but one cannot go on discussing and re-discussing the issue until a unanimous decision is reached.”

Cardinal Marx said that, in the end, it would be up to each diocesan bishop to decide whether or not to allow Eucharist hospitality in his diocese.

But he stressed that all the bishops, and not just the two opposing groups, should therefore approach one another and make a concerted effort to seek common ground.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: francisbishops; francischurch; germany; heresy
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To: daniel1212
Professor Okuhara, who had witnessed the weeping statue himself, also passed the samples on to a non-Christian forensic specialist, Dr. Kaoru Sagisaka.

Did Dr. Kaoru Sagisaka see the weeping?

Did he observe the 'tears' being removed from the statue??

Did he then have possession of these 'tears' and test the 'tears'; making SURE they never left his control???

81 posted on 05/18/2018 2:40:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OpusatFR
As I said, you keep your interpretation, and I will keep to the One True Faith.

And the seven Catholic churches mentioned in Revelation will thank you.

82 posted on 05/18/2018 2:41:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OpusatFR
And your belief is exactly why we Catholics do not allow non-Catholics who follow a different interpretation of the NT to receive the Eucharist. The point is: You respect my faith by not doing what we believe is wrong. I will respect your faith in not receiving what I discern is truly Christ in the Eucharist. Capeesh

I would not even sanction anyone to follow the Catholic interpretation of the Eucharist, and rather than respecting Catholic beliefs (versus your right to believe them), I believing in contending for the faith once delivered, (Jude 1:13) and thus expose many Catholic distinctives as not being what is manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed.

Capeesh?

83 posted on 05/18/2018 4:17:38 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: HarleyD
It's refreshing to see a Catholic who wants to uphold the values of Catholic teaching. If the Catholic Church would truly follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, the distinction between Catholicism and Protestantism would become apparent and make our job so much easier.

Well, just who is correctly upholding the values of Catholic teaching is the issue. Traditionalists ascertain which V2 and modern teachings are valid based upon their judgment of what historical (from so-called church "fathers" and medieval church teachings to Pius V) say, while they condemn us for doing the same (since our source is the only wholly inspired record of what the NT church believed, in contrast to Catholicism), and thus modern RCs call the Traditionalists "Protestants." And btwn the two are groups in various degrees of separation.

Broadly speaking, both tell us we need their magisterium as a remedy for our divisions, though we traditional evangelicals are the most unified major group in core conservative beliefs, yet as one poster wryly stated,

The last time the church imposed its judgment in an authoritative manner on "areas of legitimate disagreement," the conservative Catholics became the Sedevacantists and the Society of St. Pius X, the moderate Catholics became the conservatives, the liberal Catholics became the moderates, and the folks who were excommunicated, silenced, refused Catholic burial, etc. became the liberals. The event that brought this shift was Vatican II; conservatives then couldn't handle having to actually obey the church on matters they were uncomfortable with, so they left. ” Nathan, http://www.ratzingerfanclub.com/blog/2005/05/fr-michael-orsi-on-different-levels-of.html

84 posted on 05/19/2018 3:40:58 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
The event that brought this shift was Vatican II STILL Luther!!!!
85 posted on 05/19/2018 6:07:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

Moreover, I do not see the required (unless that also has been changed by the “unchanging” Church) official approbation of the RCC on that site:

13. The books or writings that narrate new apparitions, revelations, visions, prophecies, miracles, or that introduce new devotions, even under the pretext that they are private, if they are published without legitimate permission of the Superiors of the Church are prohibited.

15. The images, however impressed, of Our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Virgin Mary, of the Angels and of the Saints or of other Servants of God, are absolutely forbidden, different from the sentiment and decrees of the Church. The new images then, whether or not they have added prayers, do not publish without the permission of the ecclesiastical authority.

17. It is forbidden to publish any book, summary, booklet, leaflet and the like, which contains concessions of indulgences, without the permission of the legitimate authority.

20. No one, without the permission of legitimate authority, publishes books or librettos of prayers, of devotion, or of doctrine and religious instruction, of morality, of asceticism, of mysticism or other similar, though they appear to be fomenting the piety of Christian people; otherwise they are forbidden. - https://w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/it/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_l-xiii_apc_18970125_officiorum-ac-munerum.html


86 posted on 05/20/2018 9:05:10 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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