The State acknowledges the right to life of the unborn and, with due regard to the equal right to life of the mother, guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate that right.
Posted on 05/26/2018 10:09:52 AM PDT by ebb tide
IRELAND: a post-mortem examination - by Roberto de Mattei (Revisited)
The State acknowledges the right to life of the unborn and, with due regard to the equal right to life of the mother, guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate that right.
Right in line with the timing of Vatican II.
Yeah. I found a lot of Irish guys in Ireland and NYC were really fast! Far faster putting the moves on a girl than most of the American guys I met. With no chance of a long term relationship, I might add. Too busy off with the boys for another drink. I’m not at all surprised at the embarrassing vote this week.
That poll was from European Movement Ireland, and is as believable as the polls that predicted an 87-93 percent chance of a Hillary landslide in 2016.
I’ve been reading reports of hundreds of thousands of Irish “expats” who went to influence the referendum, too. Not unlikely that not all of them were Irish, to boot.
Cromwell was the exception to the rule. Most Irish have forgotten that their vote actually counted in Westminster and they at one time steered the course of the British Empire in that parliament. They had the kind of representation that the American colonists sought but George III never gave (and that Ireland would never, ever have in the EU). Before the perception of draconian justice meted out to the 1916 rebels (many of whom were communists and deserved worse IMHO), the Irish were seeking home rule, i.e. something like the dominion status of Canada.
Nonsequitur. Such people being counted as representative of the whole of Ireland from that era is what is erroneous. If they were, then no Eighth Amendment would have materialized.
And one thing that Ireland does have a lot of is daisies. They’re as common as the stinging nettles.
You can soft soap the Irish all you want but they voted in a landslide for abortion. In fact, it is being reported that they celebrated in drunken revelries (look at some of the pix on the Daily Fail). America, on the other hand, had abortion forced down its throat by the corrupt courts. And I’ve never seen a block party in support of it.
However, the the region they list as having the lowest support for the EU --- the Connacht-Ulster constituency --- comes in at 89% pro-EU. If they were skewed by 38 percentage points, pro-EU would still be a majority, and I don't think these pollsters have been charged with that kind of hallucinatory-psychotic level of discrepancy. (Unless you've got evidence. I mean, I know there are liars out there.)
Even after applying a broad plus-or-minus, it looks like overwhelming Irish support of the EU to me.
And that's a problem.
I am saying that the seeds of this debacle go back at least until the 1970s. As someone else suggested, when Vatican 2 came to evil fruition. I also think the drinking culture has much to do with this.
Looks like a symbolic reference to Leviticus 17:7. The Hebrew word “sa’ir” (literally, a billy-goat) is translated “devils” in the King James and Douay Bibles. Also references the Azazel goat of Leviticus 16.
The “seeds” were everywhere. But if they had taken root in the 1970s in Ireland, then the Eighth Amendment would never have passed in the following decade.
I think it’s all about sex.
I think the pro-life movement has been seriously misguided. Their public information campaigns are telling people what everybody already knows - “abortion stops a beating heart” - duh!
The fact is, if your culture accepts that young women should be f***ing their brains out with men who would never in a million years marry them, then abortion will become a vital necessity.
From what I know about Irish culture (some), THAT is the major change between 1983 and 2018.
There were enough of them running off to England to get abortions all from 1967 onwards, but they were never such a big-mouthed “majority” as now, with the government and media supporting and pushing abortion.
This imitation of the USSR will put them on the same road to hell as the USSR was on.
EMI is not going to publish an honest poll. Think of how we got the 87 to 93 percent pro-Hillary polls over here, which was plainly mendacious.
Yes, you make an excellent point. Only my dear friend, the late journalist Sidney Zion, admitted that abortion helped men a lot more than women.
And to your main point, abortion was always about illicit sex, and removing responsibility from men thus not permitting them to mature into men, never mind the damage to women and the bloodguilt over the millions of aborted people they are going to have to face in the resurrection.
Yes, my main point is that the pro-life movement shrinks from attacking the root of the problem.
It’s understandable, because having platoons of 18-23 year old females f***ing their brains out is quite popular.
Never mind the males.
Marxian “abolition of the family”.
And I’m not fond of the phrase “pro-life”, which is empty of meaning.
Thank you - I often wondered what the source of the goat imagery was. If “sa ir” is literally a billy goat, I wonder why it got translated as ‘devils’?
Quite popular with who?
The boys, of course.
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