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Islamic spokesman calls [called] for No vote in abortion referendum
Irish Times ^ | May 22, 2018 | Patsy McGarry

Posted on 05/27/2018 2:48:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Dr Ali Selim: “The Eighth Amendment protects pregnant women against taking a hasty decision.”

Repeal of the Eighth Amendment “is not compassionate. It is cruel. It gives licence for murder,” Dr Ali Selim of the Islamic Cultural Centre in Dublin’s Clonskeagh has said. Abortion without restriction up to 12 weeks was “abortion for no reason,” he said.

“Bearing in mind their difficult circumstances, the Eighth Amendment protects pregnant women against taking a hasty decision,” he said. “ The right decision is the decision that one takes when one is not under pressure of any type. That said the women’s social, psychological and economic concerns during pregnancy should be addressed urgently,” he said.

“Terms have been hijacked,” he said. “The pro-abortion campaign argues that deciding to continue or to end a pregnancy is a personal and a private decision” and “should be taken in the context of an individual’s unique life circumstances,” he said.

“On the contrary, abortion can never be deemed a personal or a private decision since it has serious societal repercussions. This country, like many other parts of Europe, is in need of young generations; otherwise, we will be an old nation,” he said.

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“Numerous studies have already concluded that the EU’s population is likely to shrink in the coming decades because of prolonged periods of relatively low fertility rates. This falling number of children and young people in the total population could result in labour market shortages.

How can it be progressive when it is going to affect and transform the shape and the structure of our society and be a fundamental factor in creating serious economic issues?

“Legislation for abortion will make it even worse. This situation will affect sustainable economic growth and social life models such as pensions and healthcare services,” he said.

Claims that repeal of the Eighth Amendment would be “progressive and compassionate” were “false”, he said.

“How can it be progressive when it is going to affect and transform the shape and the structure of our society and be a fundamental factor in creating serious economic issues? It will contribute to marking a transition towards a much older population structure, a development that is already apparent in several EU member States.

“As a greater proportion of generation reaches retirement, those of working age will have to carry the burden to provide for the social expenditure required for a range of related services by the ageing population,” he said.

In cases of rape “the compassionate and progressive approach is to legislate for minimising this crisis,” he said. “No one shall kill the innocent,” he said.


TOPICS: Islam; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; islam; selim
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What Dr Ali Selim said is morally true and civilizationally important.

I think we can agree with him on this while perhaps NOT agreeing with his religion's view that non-Muslims are unworthy of the right to life. Have his thoughts on this specifically been published?

41 posted on 05/28/2018 4:35:24 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It is infinitely significant to save one life.


42 posted on 05/28/2018 4:39:29 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: boatbums
All I could find was this

Ali Selim in Wikipedia

He seems to be funded by Salafis in Dubai, which make me think he's pretty much pro-sharia.

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43 posted on 05/28/2018 4:51:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If they want to live by Sharia, I don't want them to live by me.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It started with the lie that there was such a thing as “consequence-free sex”. Pregnancy is a natural consequence, therefore it had to be eliminated in order for women to truly be “free” like men are. Could that hideous deception have come from anywhere BUT hell?


44 posted on 05/28/2018 4:52:15 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: boatbums
Abortion is absolutely from the pit of hell. The annihilation of everything: love, truth, life, all that is good.

The tiny glimmer of hope is that the 1/3 of the Irish electorate which opposed this abomination, are vowing to organize and resist every step of the way.

There are a LOT of doctors and nurses in Ireland (Protestant as well as Catholic) who will NOT cooperate in any way with abortion.

45 posted on 05/28/2018 5:44:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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