Remember That First-Century Mark Fragment? Now it’s been published, there’s good news and bad news.

Stand To Reason ^ | 06/01/2018 | Amy K. Hall

[Pollster1]

FYI: Late 2nd or early 3rd century fragment of the Gospel of Mark.

[DaxtonBrown]

But was it King James version?

[SkyDancer]

A lot of things were added to Mark in the later years. Finding earlier fragments will surely clear up a lot of things.

[editor-surveyor]

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Nothing Greek is likely to be first century.
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[editor-surveyor]

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A lot of things were added to all NT writings in the mid 4th century, by Eusebius, to please Constantine.

Manuscript copies of the Hebrew original writings of all of the gospels have been located in Vatican archives, in what is known as the “junk box.”

They will become available soon. They are linked online, but are not well identified by the titles used by the librarians.
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[editor-surveyor]

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Pharisees version.

[CondorFlight]

See Tremontant, “The Hebrew Christ”, and Carmignac,
“Birth of the Synoptics”, to see how Jewish the gospels
are, how (very obviously) they were written very early,
and by eyewitnesses.

All the supposed “scholarship” proposing very late writing,
is simply demolished.

[fishtank]

P52 is about 105 AD.

[Salvation]

Of course not!

[Salvation]

Or Aramaic.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Pollster1, more from the Oxyrhynchus papyri, see those related keywords, not too bad about the original dating error.

[editor-surveyor]

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Neither Yeshua, nor his disciples spoke or were literate in Aramaic.

The presence of the ancient Hebrew MS is the icing on that cake.

The Maccabees were not liars, they were victors.

[editor-surveyor]

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Well, now the hard evidence is there and cannot be denied.

There was no Greek spoken in Judea.

[Wallace T.]

Greek was the common language of the eastern Mediterranean. Since the Macedonian conquest of the Middle East, Koine Greek was the language of trade and the Greek/Macedonian and Roman rulers of what is now Israel. Think about the British colonies in Africa and the Indian subcontinent. The common people spoke the indigenous languages, but the courts and trade were conducted in Greek. No doubt the Pharisees and the apostle Luke were conversant in Greek. Luke was a Gentile and likely spoke Greek, as did the apostle Paul. The Pharisees would have conversed with Pilate and Herod in Greek. Jesus preached entirely in Aramaic, of course. The canonical Gospels do not indicate that he ever spoke Greek. However, many Old Testament citations in the New Testament were from the Septuagint, a Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures. So Greek would have had the same status in Judea as English had in India or Kenya.

[veracious]

Greece and Aramaic not as prevalent as _scholars_ used to think, during 1st century Israel

[veracious]

Myself and others are so curious, where the Vatican has hidden all the earliest manuscripts, and when YHVH will cause them to be brought out of hiding...

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Pollster1.

• Scientists uncover what may be an early image of Christ [2014]
• Oxford University wants help decoding Egyptian papyri [ Oxyrhynchus ] [2011]
• The Next Age of Discovery (fascinating stuff!!) [2009]
• Papyrus Reveals New Clues to Ancient World (New Sophocles, Lucian: More) [2005]
• Infra-Red Brings Ancient Papyri to Light [2005]
• Decoded at last: the 'classical holy grail' that may rewrite the history of the world [2005]
• WOW (Breakthrough in interpreting Oxyrhynchus Papyri) [2005]
• Some Recently Published NEW TESTAMENT Papyri from Oxyrhynchus: Overview and Assessment [2005]
• A New Number of the Beast [2005]
• Extraordinary Discovery Unlocks Secrets of the Ancients [2005]
• Chronology of Christianity (1AD-Present) [2003]
• Rich pickings - "The library of the Mouseion in Alexandria" (might still exist?) [2002]

[Biggirl]

What about koine Greek?

[xzins]

190 to 290 AD