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To: CondoleezzaProtege; metmom; Mrs. Don-o
Do we entrust God with our sex lives or not. Do we trust God with our wombs or not. The pill, the condom, these are all designed as buffers against God.

What makes you think people who may use some form of contraceptive AREN'T still trusting God? I know a few women who got pregnant WHILE taking the pill - they kept their babies. My own father sired two more sons after his vasectomy (my brothers). We can't thwart the will of God. Look at Sarah and Moses - they got pregnant when they were senior citizens! John the Baptist's parents as well.

Question: Does God expect us to provide for our children, to be able to feed and clothe them and ensure they have a roof over their heads and the security of loving parents? It's called RESPONSIBILITY.

Please understand, I am not in any way condoning sex outside of marriage nor do I think abortifacient contraceptives (IUD, BC pill, hormone implants, etc.) are acceptable. But using some kind of barrier method - though NOT 100% effective - isn't all that different than Natural Family Planning (NFP) that Catholicism doesn't have a problem with. Like I said, giving guidance and education WRT Biblical principles IS the role churches should play in families' lives. To state ALL CONTRACEPTION IS ALWAYS EVIL is overkill - pardon the pun.

BTW...not for nuthin'...Michelangelo's magnificent Sistine Chapel ceiling as well as his other works of sculpture and paintings are some examples of what is called homoerotic art as he was rumored to be a homosexual through out his life.

62 posted on 06/11/2018 2:17:41 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: boatbums; Mrs. Don-o; metmom

First of all there is far more than Michelangelo and JUST the Sistine Chapel. Point being: the Catholic Church’s artscape leaves room for sensuality, mystery, and yes even the contradictions and spiritual struggles of its adherents (like Michelangelo and others.)

By taking on the flesh, Christ redeemed Creation.

Perhaps Michelangelo’s homosexual desires and struggles were redeemed by God and put in the service of His Glory. Beauty from the pain.

And Michelangelo’s works, especially pertaining to the Crucifixion - definitely capture pain masterfully.


66 posted on 06/11/2018 2:29:59 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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