Posted on 06/13/2018 6:22:42 PM PDT by marshmallow
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So how exactly do the police know someone has confessed to child abuse?
Criminal under arrest- well I did confess this to my priest!
Priest under investigation- he never told me anything like that!
Their phones will record the conversation for the authorities.
This law is just stupid. If an abuser knows a Priest will talk, why would he confess in the first place?
I smell a set-up. A sting.
But I wonder - are churches and confessional booths an extension of the Vatican like a nations embassy is? Is there actual jurisdiction in that location from the country the church is located in?
Confessions are supposedly anonymous. Not face to face, generally except in rare situations.
This development isn’t surprising in the least.
Corrupt RC Vatican syndicate brought it on themselves, as they bringing perverse new meaning to: “suffer the children”...
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Sting operations, or an actual child abuser who says he confessed to a priest in hopes of prosecution/sentencing reduction as far as I can see. Also if an adult or kid claims they told a priest in confession they or someone they know were being abused.
If you can use it as proof in a civil case I don’t see how the Church defends from it, the priest can’t even admit they heard a particular confession even if the person wants to them to admit it, much less what was said in it. That’s so things like jealous husbands can’t pressure their wives to ask for the priest to tell him what she said. Or spies asking the priest to tell the authorities what was said in confession. They just say no to it all, no matter what.
I have not read how it will actually work in practice in any of these stories so far. That seems like something practical to expound on. Like how has it been used in other ‘mandatory reporter’ type laws that have been used criminally or civilly before? Is it just hearsay or do you have to have recordings or what?
Freegards
I don’t think that is true anymore. They are always supposed to have the option of completely anonymous confessions but many set ups now also have the priest just sitting across from a chair with a screen to the side. I don’t think there is any prohibition to about actual names either.
Freegards
It does not “force” priests to betray the confessional. It punishes priests for betraying the confessional. We will find out fairly quickly whether priests will comply as ringers from the left “go to confession” in probably each diocese.
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