Posted on 06/21/2018 6:41:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
Bp Edward Weisenberger's views are just that: the opinions of one guy, Eddie Weisenberger, no more and no less.
But when Weisenberger threatens ecclesiastic penalties for those who disagree with him, he's crossing a line. He should be publicly admonished for his abuse of episcopal authority. Policy preferences ("prudential judgments") are the laity's sphere of competence; not his.
Moral Law should be constantly reinforced, such as the exceptionless norms like "Thou shalt not commit adultery" and "Thou shalt not kill." But clerics interposing their views --- with a threat of canonical sanctions, no less! --- as if they had any authority to impose political policy, are way, way out of their league.
It's classic clericalism. and it's maddening.
P.S. Kudos to Bishops/Cardinals Gracida, Bruskewitz, and Burke, good men who know the difference between Apostolic Authority and political hot air.
Shethink13, this one’s for you.
Seems to me the diocese of Tuscon no longer qualifies as tax exempt due to the Bishop’s interference with politics and law enforcement.
You know, there other forms of Catholicism that don’t insist you commit cultural and National suicide.
But still giving the Eucharist to supporters of abortion.
I suggest this Bishop ESAD!
“That argument digs the Bishop’s hole deeper. Let’s assume immigration actually has the status of a life issue. If so, where are the bishop’s public threats of excommunication toward all the Catholics in Congress who support abortion-on-demand and the funding of Planned Parenthood? (Only two of the 89 Catholic Democrats in Congress are pro-life.)”
Oh I needed that laugh. The good Bishop can pucker up and smack my lily white. Figuratively speaking of course.
As an Irish Catholic, I agree with you. And after we’re done, we should fill the rectory with illegals. The church can put their money where their mouths are and care for them. They sure as hell don’t do as much for the communities as they did when I was a kid.
So having control of your the US borders and following the laws established by Congress is immoral and a grave sin subject to excommunication, yet abortion and those that continue to support the killing of babies, and continue to receive the Body and Blood of Christ is not? Silence.
I hope that this Bishop will go back to the seminary and relearn Catholic doctrine. And confession.
Does he really care about the welfare of children, shouldn’t he tell them there is no open door to break the laws of the US and stay at home?
Shades of the Spanish Inquisition.
How about excommunicating Nancy Pelosi, for her support of abortion?
Plus a few others.
Catholicism itself --- the normal, ordinary, and perennial Catholicism found in the Catechism and the teachings of the Fathers of the Church and the Lives of the Saints --- does not "insist you commit cultural and National suicide."
Don't call for a new 'form' of Catholicism. The old-and-always form will do just fine, thank you, by the grace of God.
But you've got to stay and fight.
Yes. As Deal Hudson notes, that shameful fact is very, very prominent.
When's the last time you voiced your concerns as a believer, to your pastor, not to mention your bishop?
That's your right under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution -- and Canon 212.
Then what’s with Jesus saying “Render unto Caesar, etc” - obey the law of the land and obey God’s law in Heaven. It is against our law to enter our country illegally. What’s that so hard to understand; BTW, Mexico is colluding in this because they’re letting illegals cross their country to enter ours.
“Kicking the “ you know out of a bishop is not the Catholic way.”
I said “Irish Catholic”.
Many millions of Catholics should excommunicate their communist one work bishops.
The agent was found Not Guilty by a jury. Bishop Weisenberger did not serve on the jury and there is no evidence he was present in the courtroom to hear testimony, judge witness credibility and hear jury instructions. But he said he was disappointed.
This is same Bishop, who according to parishioners at a Mass on the Border r said he now considers himself Eduardo, not Edward. This was at a parish where although there are many English only speakers in that particular area the Parish serves, it holds no English Masses.
He succeeds Bishop Kicanas, who wrote in America Magazine in the early years as head of Tucson Diocese that he went to Altar, Mexico, a staging city on the border, where he blessed those getting ready to illegally cross the border.
Pray for America.Pray for Trump. This President and this Country have conferred Religious Freed om the Church and allowed it to flourish in a way few other countries have.
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