Bishop suggests excommunication for Catholics implementing border enforcement

LifeSiteNews ^ | June 21, 2018 | Deal Hudson

[Mrs. Don-o]

It is a canonical offense to physically attack a member of the clergy. The penalty (e.g. excommunication) would depend on the motivation and the gravity of the offense.

By "motivation" I mean if he was attacked out of contempt for the Church, or for his office, or as a way to intimidate him in the carrying out of his just ecclesiastical duties. I don't think, for instance, that if the clergyman (physically) aggressed or attacked or threatened someone first, that physical self-defense would be forbidden.

But I'm not a canon lawyer. Read for yourself.

Delicts Against Ecclesiastical Authorities

[Mrs. Don-o]

This is an excellent point.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thank you for sayin that. It is wrong to slime any person with baseless vile slander -— even (or especially) if that person is a priest.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Because we are the Church.

[Mrs. Don-o]

This is a vile slander.

[Mrs. Don-o]

You know nothing about how he treats altar boys. When a person resorts to such dirty insinuations, it tells me a lot about the lack of regard they have for justice and truth.

[M Kehoe]

Hi.

The First lady sent a scalding email to the diocese after the same pronouncement from the bishops conference in Ft. Lauderdale last week.

Deacon Wells gave her a phone call. Jonna knows him fairly well and they had a rather lively conversation.

No, we won’t be excommunicated, but the diocese knows that we back the President’s policies.

5.56mm

[BlueLancer]

Times are a changin’.

Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?

[Mrs. Don-o]

Well... if a person commits war crimes he ought to be excommunicated. But lawful border security, like lawful national defense, is not a war crime. In fact, it is a service to the common good and a just, constitutional obligation.

As the Catechism says:

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

[Mrs. Don-o]

‘Papist’ is a (mildly) offense term. I don’t use offensive terms for believers in other faith communities -— and, more importantly, I do not speak of them with violence or vulgarity -— and I expect Catholics to be treated with the same consideration.

[Mrs. Don-o]

You’re right. It’s really clerical malpractice.

[dfwgator]

Tax the Church!

[Mrs. Don-o]

Good for your wife. It takes a certain godly gumption, in the spirit of St. Catherine of Siena. We have to stand up for the truth.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That would eb well worth it if it would free the Church from this corrupting entanglement with Caesar.

[Godebert]

File a complaint. I call them papists. I don’t care if you are offended.

[Mrs. Don-o]

The grounds under which a Catholic can be excommunicated are rather well defined, precisely to protect Catholics from arbitrary acts by out-of-control clerics.

Bp Weisenburger doesn't have even a remotely canonical justification to say what he said.

"Bishop Weisenburger himself resides in a state where three of its Catholic members of Congress are rated 100 percent pro-abortion by Planned Parenthood (Tom O'Halleran, Raul Grijalva, and Ruben Gallego, all Democrats).

If he wants to open up the excommunication bottle, he should pour a couple of tall ones for the pro-abort politicians in his diocese.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That is unfortunate on your part.

[MarineMom613]

https://catholiccharitiesny.org/what-we-do/welcoming-integrating-immigrants-refugees/catholic-charities-immigrant-refugee-services

They make a LOAD of money helping these immigrants!

[Godebert]

I blame it on genetics. I’m a direct descendant of John Knox.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I don’t blame any man’s errors on his ancestors.