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I can’t stand the RCC’s posture of extreme passivism. Jesus wasn’t unswervingly passivist unless that served His purpose. He was sometimes violent, or suggested a violent consequence for people’s behavior. How do readers of the Gospels miss this?


3 posted on 07/06/2018 8:25:04 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude; Salvation
I can’t stand the RCC’s posture of extreme passivism.

My impression, looking from the outside, is that this is a fairly recent phenomenon. From Constantine until at least the conquistadors, the Catholic church was not averse to organizing Christian-based military for its purposes, usually laudatory.

As late as the early 20th century, Chesterton argued against both pacifism and militarism (see here), and his argument sounds to me like a modern version of Aquinas. I also remember Lewis somewhere arguing that Christianity is a precarious paradox of extremes, one of which was the simultaneous necessity for both militarism and pacifism--but I can't remember whether he wrote that before or after becoming Catholic.

4 posted on 07/06/2018 8:55:33 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: fwdude
You cannot pin such a summation on allCatholics. Perhaps if you read some more about Kapaun who served well as a chaplain of his men.
8 posted on 07/06/2018 9:13:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude

Puzzlement here. Is this related to the post?


17 posted on 07/06/2018 9:54:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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