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Philippine president Duterte says he’ll resign if anybody can prove God exists
New York Post via Associated Press ^ | 07/07/2018

Posted on 07/07/2018 10:55:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: daniel1212

Wow, preacher! Guess you don’t get comedy. I’ll bet you’re a joy to hang out with.


41 posted on 07/07/2018 5:29:16 PM PDT by Terry Mross (On some threads it's best to go st inraight to the comments.)
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To: hecticskeptic
Duterte needs to look around and ask this question “Do I believe that in the beginning, a rock.... Or do I believe that in the beginning, God”....

Considering that Duterte's reason for at least believing in a a supreme is because something must prevent "billions of stars and celestial bodies from colliding in a frequency that could have long threatened the human race" - which is not much of an argument - evidences that he is not a serious seeker, and is simply a fool uttering his carnal mind.

In contrast, here is a man (Amir D. Aczel, Ph.D, author of 17 books on mathematics and science) who despite being a evolutionist cannot justify atheism, and wrote in Time magazine that,

a gargantuan burst of energy, whose nature and source are completely unknown to us and not in the least understood by science, initiated the creation of our universe. Then suddenly, as if by magic, the “God particle”—the Higgs boson discovered two years ago inside CERN’s powerful particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider—came into being and miraculously gave the universe its mass. Why did this happen? The mass constituted elementary particles—the quarks and the electron—whose weights and electrical charges had to fall within immeasurably tight bounds for what would happen next. For from within the primeval soup of elementary particles that constituted the young universe, again as if by a magic hand, all the quarks suddenly bunched in threes to form protons and neutrons, their electrical charges set precisely to the exact level needed to attract and capture the electrons, which then began to circle nuclei made of the protons and neutrons. All of the masses, charges and forces of interaction in the universe had to be in just the precisely needed amounts so that early light atoms could form. Larger ones would then be cooked in nuclear fires inside stars, giving us carbon, iron, nitrogen, oxygen and all the other elements that are so essential for life to emerge. And eventually, the highly complicated double-helix molecule, the life-propagating DNA, would be formed.

Why did everything we need in order to exist come into being? How was all of this possible without some latent outside power to orchestrate the precise dance of elementary particles required for the creation of all the essentials of life? The great British mathematician Roger Penrose has calculated—based on only one of the hundreds of parameters of the physical universe—that the probability of the emergence of a life-giving cosmos was 1 divided by 10, raised to the power 10, and again raised to the power of 123. This is a number as close to zero as anyone has ever imagined. (The probability is much, much smaller than that of winning the Mega Millions jackpot for more days than the universe has been in existence.) http://time.com/author/amir-d-aczel/

Then you have DNA. ,

42 posted on 07/07/2018 5:37:06 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: SeekAndFind

I see Satan speaks thru Duterte.

Hell will be impossible to endure for him and billions of others. Too bad!


43 posted on 07/07/2018 5:53:50 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
President Rodrigo Duterte, who has had a thorny relationship with the church, questioned anew in a speech late Friday some of the basic tenets of the Catholic faith, including the concept of original sin, which he said taints even innocent infants and can only be removed through baptism in a church for a fee.

Baptism for a fee? Baptism of infants? It's obvious to which religion he is referring. Apparently, he hasn't seen New Testament Christianity.

44 posted on 07/07/2018 6:07:11 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: knarf
it all seems to be directed at the (corrupt and hypocritical) Catholic church

That is correct, but you're gonna get flamed. Me too...

45 posted on 07/07/2018 6:08:29 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I don't know

Truth is beginni9ng to bust out all over the place and I like to think it is Trump effect

46 posted on 07/07/2018 6:59:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Mark17
Philippine president Duterte says he’ll resign if anybody can prove God exists

The Philippine president, who recently sparked outrage for calling God stupid,

Wait a gol-danged minute here!!

How can GOD be 'stupid' if he don't exist?

Someone needs to review their Logic 101 textbook!

47 posted on 07/07/2018 7:34:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: onedoug

Indeed!


48 posted on 07/07/2018 7:36:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Terry Mross
I’m positive he sealed his eternal fate.

I'm not.


2 Peter 3:9 New International Version

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

49 posted on 07/07/2018 7:41:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Terry Mross
Calling God’s mother a bitch can’t be too pleasing to God.

Sorry; but GOD doesn't HAVE a mother.

Mary was used to incarnate the second person of the GODhead.

50 posted on 07/07/2018 7:42:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; knarf; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion
How can GOD be 'stupid' if he don't exist?

The Media in the Philippines, is similar to the US Media. They publish fake news, with sickening regularity, so who knows if ANYTHING was said at all. Also, if he speaks in Tagalog or Bisaya, their English translation, might be a deliberate mistranslation, since most of them are fake news artists. 👎

51 posted on 07/07/2018 8:30:34 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: SeekAndFind
Here.
52 posted on 07/07/2018 8:33:31 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Conservatism" without G-d is just another form of Communism.)
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To: Elsie

Sorry to hear that you’re one of millions who truly BELIEVE they’re Christians but don’t know who Jesus was and IS. Go to YouTube and look up the song “Mary, Did You Know?” Lots of people can see the truth through song. I just hope you don’t get angry. I’m trying to tell you the gospel.


53 posted on 07/07/2018 10:29:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross (On some threads it's best to go st inraight to the comments.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Resign! This was too easy!

54 posted on 07/07/2018 11:06:50 PM PDT by Bommer ( F the NFL)
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To: Terry Mross; Elsie

Do you even know what the gospel is?

It sure isn’t telling people GOD has a mother.

Mary was the mother of Jesus and identified as such in Scripture by the Holy Spirit. She is the mother of the Incarnation of God, but not the mother of God.

God is eternal. He did not have a beginning. By saying that GOD has a mother, you are putting Mary above Him and making her the source of the Godhead.

Claiming God had a mother smacks of Mormonism where they teach that God was previously a man who attained godhood. As a man, then he would have had a mother. But that is blasphemy.

If God wanted us to identify Mary as *mother of God* then HE would have used the phrase Himself when inspiring Scripture.

He didn’t.

The term *mother of Jesus* was an identifier for identifying MARY, which one of the many Mary’s mentioned in Scripture the writers were talking about, not making a statement about Jesus divinity.


55 posted on 07/08/2018 1:40:20 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Bob434
He won’t accept any proof because the proof is all around him and he denies it- not only in nature is it, but also in historical eye witness accounts- It’s available in the fossil record- it’s available in microbiolgy- etc etc etc- He evidently rejects all forms of proof- He is a liar- God Himself could stand before him and do miracle after miracle, and the man would likely accuse God of trickery because the man’s mind is made up- He’s not looking for proof- He’s looking only to insult anyone that presents the truth to him by denying yet more proof of God’s existence- His heart was evidently hardened against God when he suffered abuse-

Luke 16:19-31 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

“The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

“But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

“He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

“Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

“‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

“He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

There is no proof good enough for someone who WILL not believe.

56 posted on 07/08/2018 2:01:52 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Terry Mross
As for believing, he should listen to Archie Bunker. “Faith is when you believe in something nobody in his right mind would believe in.”. That’s why it’s called “faith”.

That's man's foolish notion of the definition of faith. That's why one should never base their theology on a sitcom.

This is what God says faith is, and it's not believing something that can't be proved.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

When Thomas doubted, Jesus showed him proof. Jesus did not expect Thomas to believe something that couldn't be proved.

57 posted on 07/08/2018 2:05:31 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Terry Mross
I’m trying to tell you the gospel.

Then DO it!

Don't tell me to listen to a SONG!


 

 




The 15 promises

(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

1 Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies
4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9. I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13. I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death
14. All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15. Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

 

"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,

no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.

There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."

Sister Lucia dos Santos

58 posted on 07/08/2018 3:37:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212; Terry Mross; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; ...
As for believing, he should listen to Archie Bunker. “Faith is when you believe in something nobody in his right mind would believe in.”. That’s why it’s called “faith”.

That is non-sense. In Scripture God never requires blind faith...

You're absolutely correct. When our Lord Jesus was confronted by the Pharisees, He told them to 1) search the scriptures, 2) examine His works (miracles), and 3) listen to His words and actions. Even with all the mounting evidence they would not believe simply because they were not of His sheep. Christ raises from the dead and they concoct stories to explain it away.

Faith isn't a blind leap. Rather it is when one sees the Red Sea parting, they realize and acknowledge it is the work of God. There is no proof except what God has already provided-the death and resurrection on the cross for our sinful behavior. People don't need to examine the claims of Christ, they need to examine themselves in the light of the scriptures. That should be proof enough.

I suspect Duterte wouldn't have resigned even if he saw Christ raised from the dead.

59 posted on 07/08/2018 5:00:51 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no God: Duerte. There is no Duerte.: God.


60 posted on 07/08/2018 5:11:39 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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