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If you were an Italian Catholic, who would you trust more to look out for your interest, and the interest of the Church in your country: Matteo Salvini, or Pope Francis? Normally it would be a crazy question, but these are not normal times.
1 posted on 07/11/2018 8:25:23 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Italy has shown a lot of restraint toward the Vatican since the Risorgimento, but this is too much.

Seize the Vatican, turn it into a theme park, and send the pope and his court to Avignon.


2 posted on 07/11/2018 8:34:53 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Salvation; Mrs. Don-o; EDINVA; MS.BEHAVIN

Ping!


3 posted on 07/11/2018 8:41:38 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law." --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ebb tide

Wanting Muslim migrants, especially coming with a surplus of young military age men and so few others (women and children), isnt a test of faith in God but makes a dandy test for faith in secularism!

It’s also a test for who has even a lick of common sense.

When the Christian refugees “stay behind” in Muslim countries THAT should tell you the secularist are about dechristinization. Pity they don’t understand Jihad but believe their own mindless rhetoric ... they are working to doom us all.


4 posted on 07/11/2018 8:43:43 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ebb tide
The cardinal sins in Cavafy’s vision

covfefe?

5 posted on 07/11/2018 8:49:30 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: ebb tide

Immigration will not increase the number of Italian workers; it will increase the number of non-Italian workers in Italy (assuming that they actual work instead of living off of state largess).


7 posted on 07/11/2018 8:59:11 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: ebb tide

The Great War killed, on average, roughly 10,000 men a day, every day, seven days a week, for over four years.

Europe never recovered.


8 posted on 07/11/2018 9:08:08 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ebb tide
Immigrants make it possible to solve a problem that the current social security system is not able to face, namely the reduction in the number of Italian workers.

Unskilled, illiterate people with no interest in work are not an asset to any labor market.

If Italy shut out all the Muslims, and opened their doors to oppressed whites from Zimbabwe and South Africa, then that might do something in their favor.

11 posted on 07/11/2018 10:03:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Go go Godzilla)
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To: ebb tide

Bringing in “immigrants” will just take more money from the few Italians who are still able to work. They will obviously be able to have fewer children, thus making the problem even worse.
The Vatican is not Italy. It is surrounded by Italy. Tell it to find a small island and take the “immigrants” with it.


13 posted on 07/11/2018 10:25:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism, like insanity, is the denial of reality.)
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