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To: ebb tide
Female deacons and even priests don't bother me. There is precedence in the early church. What concerns me is the overreaching political activities going on. I don't like mixing my faith with extremist politics.

Was at the National Cathedral a few weeks back on father's day. I was expecting a nice sermon on the benefits of father's with some parallels with our Father in Heaven. Instead I heard a sermon about the evils of white men. It wasn't directly stating that, but it certainly WAS saying it. Even bashed our soldiers coming home from war and commented how wonderfully inclusive it was to wear a Hijab. Thank God my priest isn't a loony tune like the priest at the National Cathedral.
4 posted on 07/12/2018 2:45:10 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

Priesthood celibacy is not a 2000 year tradition. Male-only priesthood is indeed a dogma of the church, but celibacy is a regulation or policy that could more easily change. Priesthood celibacy was in fact rejected at the Council of Nicea in AD 325. It did not become official policy until the Second Lateran Council in AD 1139. The present-day policy of clerical celibacy dates back to the Council of Trent in AD 1563.

Prior to the complete ban in 1139, policies appeared to be more about protecting church property than ensuring an unmarried priesthood. Canon 33 in AD 305 forbade priests from having sexual relations with their wives and begetting children, but not from entering into marriage. Priests were still getting married in the 11th century when Pope Benedict VIII issued a decree stating that the children of priests could not inherit property from their fathers.


7 posted on 07/12/2018 4:08:52 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: StolarStorm

The precedent is with Christ who called MEN to be his apostles and the first Bishops.

I’ll believe Jesus before anyone else.


9 posted on 07/12/2018 4:15:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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“Female deacons and even priests don’t bother me. There is precedence in the early church.”

Really? When Jesus ordained the first priests with “Do this in memory of me”, who were the females present? He decided the issue of a male priesthood; History Channel “specials” pretending Mary Magdalene was an early pope are fabrications.


15 posted on 07/13/2018 3:29:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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