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[Cathlic Caucus] US Association of Consecrated Virgins condemns ‘shocking’ new rules
Catholic Herald ^ | July 13, 2018 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 07/13/2018 5:53:37 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: Mrs. Don-o

Then this begs the question of what avenue of consecration someone like Mary Magdalene would enter, who was neither widowed nor physically a virgin.


21 posted on 07/13/2018 7:18:50 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: madison10
Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. That is tradition not based on scripture.

Well, as Catholics we respect tradition. Regardless, even if she were non-virginal, it does not necessarily mean to the point of prostitution. That is rightly questionable...but what isn't questionable are the numbers of early Christian women (and men for that matter, like St. Augustine of Hippo) who were formerly prostitutes and then lived monastic lives...

22 posted on 07/13/2018 7:21:48 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: madison10

clarifying: Saint Augustine of Hippo was not a male prostitute, but he was open about having had an active sexual past in his “Confessions.”


23 posted on 07/13/2018 7:22:36 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: ebb tide
Everybody is looking for a free pass, sort of like youth sports leagues where everybody gets a trophy.

Honestly, I had to look twice to make sure this story wasn't satire. It's ridiculous. It is friggin' lunacy.
 

24 posted on 07/13/2018 7:24:47 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Before the priest says the Eucharistic blessing of consecration — they are just bread and wine.

The consecration of the Body and Blood of Christ is a forward and permanent progression.

However, you can't reverse virginity, no matter how hard you argue it.

25 posted on 07/13/2018 7:29:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Physically and literally they might not be virgins.

So why then call them "virgins"?

Do you tell your your neighbors that your pet cat is a dog?

26 posted on 07/13/2018 7:34:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

You seem to be conflating chastity and virginity.


27 posted on 07/13/2018 7:35:46 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
It's ridiculous. It is friggin' lunacy.

Welcome to francischurch where non-virgins are called virgins, adultery is OK, active homos have to be "accompanied" in their wicked lifestyles, etc.

28 posted on 07/13/2018 7:37:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
My impression is that the majority of orders of women religious accept novices who simply want to be consecrated "women," not specifically consecrated "widows" or "virgins."

Some religious orders accept divorce/annulled women, and some don't. The director of novices or admissions would be in the best position to discuss the prospects of assuming vows following divorce.

The complicating factor which would give most orders pause, would be children. If a woman has children in the home, or has ongoing obligations concerning child support, that would probably prevent her taking vows in most congregations of women religious.

Other than religious orders, a woman might want to think of becoming an Oblate, a Lay Associate, or a member of a Third Order. I think there would be greater diversity in terms of the requirements of the various group: they are not all alike.

29 posted on 07/13/2018 7:44:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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30 posted on 07/13/2018 7:47:33 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

St. Mary Magdalene was possessed by I believe ten demons. She was NOT a prostitute.


31 posted on 07/13/2018 7:51:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

See #31


32 posted on 07/13/2018 7:53:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Magdala, the Home Town of Mary Magdalene, Is Being Resurrected

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33 posted on 07/13/2018 8:07:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: madison10

A virgin really is a virgin physically. The word refers to a physical status, not a moral status.

It’s like being “tall”. You may be lowly in your attitude, but if you’re tall, you’re tall.

There might be some confusion here between “virgin” and “chaste”. Not all virgins are chaste. And not all chaste women are virgins. The terms are not synonymous.


34 posted on 07/13/2018 8:13:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I think non-virgin women in the Church are called holy women.


35 posted on 07/14/2018 7:37:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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And “Servant of God,” like Dorothy Day. Neither a virgin nor a widow, she turned from sin and gave her whole life to God. Pope Benedict XVI spoke of Dorothy as a model of conversion. She will probably soon be a canonized saint.


36 posted on 07/14/2018 7:47:24 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I think Mary Magdalene was given a special title: Penitent.


37 posted on 07/14/2018 9:23:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: madison10

>>Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. That is tradition not based on scripture.<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

100% agree.


38 posted on 07/16/2018 5:04:26 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian (Read "American Betrayal" by Diana West)
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