Posted on 07/16/2018 6:22:20 AM PDT by marshmallow
The 'god-tsarists' form the most vocal and best organised minority in the Russian Orthodox Church
His secular name is Georgy Alexandrovich Shevkunov. Chances are you have never heard of him. However, he is regularly listed as one of the most influential people in Russia – at least as far as the opaque world of what passes for politics in the country is concerned.
On July 17, 2018, it will be 100 years since the last Emperor, Nicholas II, his wife, children and servants, were brutally murdered by Bolshevik thugs in the cellar of a house in Yekaterinburg, an industrial city in the Urals. And His Eminence Tikhon, titular Bishop of Yegoryevsk and vicar of His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Rus’ (to use Shevkunov’s full title), is the official Church representative to an important commission, which includes prosecutors, forensic experts, historians and government investigators. It is charged with a task worthy of an Ionesco play: to verify whether the murder of the Imperial family was “ritualistic” (in plain language, they were killed by the Jews) or just what most people think it was – a lawless summary execution of innocents. In this capacity Bishop Tikhon has become a central figure in determining whether one of the most enduring 20th-century conspiracy theories will be finally debunked.
Despite his relatively young age of 59 and secular education (at the Moscow Institute of Cinematography scriptwriting faculty), Bishop Tikhon cuts a remarkable figure. He is an abbot of a rich monastery located 10 minutes’ walk from the Kremlin and is chairman of the patriarchal culture commission. He runs a very successful Christian publishing house and is a bestselling author himself. His book Saints Without Sainthood, depicting his religious experiences and full of stories of miracles occurring in daily life, has sold three million......
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No, they didn’t treat the Czar like “God.”
They treated him as the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church, just like they treated the Eastern Roman Emperor, before the fall of Constantinople.
The Emperor in Constantinople was the Patriarch of the entire Christian Church before the Roman Catholics split off and crowned their own “Holy Roman Emperor,” Charlemagne.
These are the guys to watch.
“No, they didn’t treat the Czar like “God.””
Actually, more like a demi-god. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/october-revolution-russia-100-years-tsar-nicholas-ii-royalist-cult-romanov-family-murder-bolsheviks-a8035466.html
“They treated him as the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church, just like they treated the Eastern Roman Emperor, before the fall of Constantinople.”
No, they treated him as greater than the Patriarch - especially because there wasn’t a Patriarch since the reforms of Peter the Great.
“The Emperor in Constantinople was the Patriarch of the entire Christian Church...”
No, he wasn’t the patriarch. Caesaro-papism is one thing but it doesn’t make you a consecrated bishop.
“before the Roman Catholics split off...”
Never happened. The Catholic Church never split from anyone. People leave it perhaps, but it never leaves anyone.
“...and crowned their own “Holy Roman Emperor,” Charlemagne.”
Charlemagne never used that as a title. Emperor of the Romans (Imperator Romanorum) - that was his title.
Maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do.
“Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.”
- Winston Churchill
And nothing’s changed. With or without communism, Russians remain a threat to all that is non-Russian, and they don’t want anyone’s friendship outside the Motherland.
“Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.”
So it’s like those dolls with another doll inside another doll?
If the shoe fits.....
;^)
Holds up mirror so you can see the pot is black.
“Holds up mirror so you can see the pot is black.”
In other words, you can’t refute what I said either. I already knew that.
In other words, you don’t know as much as you think you know which is why you rely so heavily on being snarky. Yes, you got a couple of things right but then you went off on the nonsensical fallacy of caesaropapism which is completely alien to the modern Orthodox Christian.
It took you 13 days and that’s all you could come up with? Caesaropapism was always a serious problem in the East. In Russia, it’s still something of a problem and even some of the ROC clergy know it.
Still there’s hope: https://acton.org/publications/transatlantic/2018/06/01/are-orthodox-christians-naturally-statists
Well... it wasn't really that important.
“Well... it wasn’t really that important.”
Your response really wasn’t. Death, Taxes, FormerLib. Always reliable. Never in a worthwhile way.
And yet, you always manage to bring the thread down to a lower level. Hey, it’s what you do.
“And yet, you always manage to bring the thread down to a lower level. Hey, it’s what you do.”
Telling the truth is not bringing a thread to a lower level. You can’t refute anything I said because it’s all true. Thus, you cast aspersions instead. It’s what you do.
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