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[Irish] Archbishop Says Youth Alienated by Catholic Church
The Irish Times ^ | 7/16/18 | Patsy McGarry

Posted on 07/21/2018 5:37:33 AM PDT by marshmallow

‘Catholics must learn new ways in which they can win young hearts,’ says Diarmuid Martin

Irish Catholicism today is “foreign” to young people and needs to wake up to the situation, according to Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin.

“Change is painful; there is, however, no alternative,” he said.

“Irish religious culture is changing. The main body of the membership of Irish Catholicism and its leadership belong to an age and cultural group that is in many ways foreign to the culture of young people. The Irish church needs to waken itself to the urgency of this situation,” he said.

“This will not be easy. There is uncertainty about how to proceed,” he added, noting that there would be “a sort of passive resistance”.

“Change is painful. There is however no alternative. Catholics must learn new ways in which they can win young hearts for what the teaching of Jesus involves,” he said. “The Irish church has to re-learn the ability to speak the language of faith authentically in a world where that language may be alien. The church in Ireland needs a radical overhaul in its outreach in faith towards young people.”

More broadly he said “the church as a faith community should be active and present in society, drawing attention to suffering and repression of any kind and being alongside those who suffer. Christian belief has and will always have its contribution to bring to the formation of society.”

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1 posted on 07/21/2018 5:37:33 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

The more I read about Ireland the more thankful I am that my family got out. I come from the same family as
O’Coilleain so my family did it’s part; but they have made me embarrassed to be part of them. I will never go back there again.


2 posted on 07/21/2018 5:55:35 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: marshmallow

“We don’t need doctrines and faith! We need to be trendy!”


3 posted on 07/21/2018 5:59:21 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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To: jmaroneps37
My wife and I had planned on visiting my paternal roots. But the more I hear about how the society is becoming EU like, I’m rethinking. The recent abortion vote was a real disappointment.

Some of this is a rejection of oppressive tactics employed by the Church in previous generations but things have devolved so quickly that there are certainly additional evils at work here.

4 posted on 07/21/2018 6:00:59 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
“We don’t need doctrines and faith! We need to be trendy!”

This is not a parallel movement to some American denominations. If it were as simple as that, it would never have taken place.

5 posted on 07/21/2018 6:02:57 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Well, that’s it. That’s the message being sent by this harping on “change.”

If they brought back all the beauty that was in my childhood - Latin, the occasional High Mass, Stations of the Cross, the Rosary being said in schools, Novenas, etc., people would fall in love with the Church again. Right now, it is pretty ugly culturally.


6 posted on 07/21/2018 6:04:51 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: marshmallow

As if there were never “young people” before this. I’m not so sure most of the “old people” even have the Catholic Faith anymore.


7 posted on 07/21/2018 6:06:27 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: marshmallow

Irish Times is a liberal rag. Martin is also liberal. Conservative Orders like the Dominicans of St Cecilia out of Nashville are bursting with voacations. My daughter’s school in Baltimore has 10 nuns, most in their 20’s and 30’s. FFI was doing well until Francis destroyed them


8 posted on 07/21/2018 6:21:54 AM PDT by STJPII
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To: marshmallow

I don’t give a fig what this person says. He has proven a disaster for the Church and her remaining faithful.


9 posted on 07/21/2018 6:21:58 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: johniegrad

Maybe not, but tambourines and guitars and yoof culture will still be found to be the solution.


10 posted on 07/21/2018 6:24:14 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: marshmallow

Headline: “Baalist youth in Canaan reject restraints of Yahweh. Find their culture is more liberal.”

In both instances, the response should be “so what?”


11 posted on 07/21/2018 6:39:11 AM PDT by oldplayer
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Geez, has it been fifty years I’ve been enduring guitars, tambourines, and that @#$%-awful “sign of peace”, not to mention African themed folk hymns during the liturgy?

Hmm...I attend a church on a university campus. Lots of college babes attend and when the African drums crank up they start moving their groove thang, so maybe it’s not so bad.

;^)


12 posted on 07/21/2018 7:07:09 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: marshmallow

The Church is not here to help Satan lead children astray.


13 posted on 07/21/2018 7:11:03 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: marshmallow

Any child not wanting to be molested would run from catholic church


14 posted on 07/21/2018 7:13:23 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

Most American children these days have suffered some form of systematic abuse and can recognize an abuser when they see one.


15 posted on 07/21/2018 7:36:50 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: marshmallow

I don’t know about alienated but they are getting molested


16 posted on 07/21/2018 8:09:07 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: marshmallow
The Catholic hierarchy in Ireland and everywhere else has failed to clean house after the exposure of their role in condoning and at times facilitating or participating in the clerical abuse of minors. This has left them without moral authority. The need is not for revision in Catholic doctrine but for the retirement of most of the current bishops and cardinals, excepting only those whose sanctity, orthodoxy, and good conduct has been affirmatively established. Failing that, the best hope is for generational change -- with the current Pope and his pink Mafia especially in need of being called to Judgment.
17 posted on 07/21/2018 10:15:24 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: elcid1970

What the hell are you doing there? Get out.


18 posted on 07/21/2018 10:23:59 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: marshmallow

‘Catholics must learn new ways in which they can win young hearts,’


Think about it, if the Catholics are wrong they need to change.

If they are right the young people mentioned can go to HELL, no loss.


19 posted on 07/21/2018 10:48:00 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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